[mythtv-users] [Request] Channel guide behavior while watching TV
James Armstrong
james at thearmstrongs.org
Wed Aug 25 12:10:57 EDT 2004
>>The first thing that I've noticed that I would like to request a small
>>change to seems relatively simple on the surface:
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>I think you will find it signfniciantly more complex once you delve into it.
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>AIUI the US system of TV (I'm UK based) is that channel 1 is channel 1 no
>matter what, if I select 1 then I will always get the same program.
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>Not so in the rest of the world. By _convention_ in the UK analogue TV
>uses 1 for BBC1, 2 BBC2 etc, but that relies on the user tuning their TVs
>as such.
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>With the advent of different distribution systems the channel number
>required to get a specific channel is different, as is the selection of
>available channels, so
>BBC1 is 1 on analogue, 1 on DVB-T, 1 or 101 or 401 on DVB-C dependent on
>the distributor, 101? on DVB-S (Astra) etc etc.
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>Take into account the 400+ channels now available in the UK and you have a
>nightmare!
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>xmltvid's are the closest thing to a unqiue identifier that has been created.
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>>Tuner card 1 is set up for basic cable and uses the native tuner to
>>change channels
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>>Tuner card 2 is setup for digital cable and is using the dct-channel
>>program to change my digital cable box's channel.
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>>Obviously, one tuner has access to many, many more channels than the
>>other.
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>The Bodge solution is to create 2 video sources and link them to seperate
>devices. This will permit you to only tune to channels available on that
>tuner. Doesn't work well on Live TV watching, but OK on recording mode.
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>You will get scheduling difficulties with duplicates of every channel...
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>>When watching TV on Tuner card 1, I have access to 2-85 but the Channel
>>Guide will show me all my channels. When I switch find a show above the
>>85 and select it in the channel guide, it will not change and I get no
>>message on the screen.
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>>Would it be possible to a) only show those channels accessible on the
>>current tuner card in the guide or better yet b) change to the
>>appropriate card if it is available.
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>IMHO: We need a Tuners capability table that describes the channels
>available on each tuner (and the preference of that tuner for the
>channel). (Could be extra fields on the channel table).
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>Thoughts anyone?
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>-malc-
>tp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Isn't there already something that says tuner #1 svideo0 is on
/dev/video1 and uses Source #3 where Source #3 is Dishnetwork (from
datadirect). Can't we just use that.?
Let's say your watching LiveTV on tuner #0, which is broadcast cable
(us) which is using the channels defined in Source 1 (datadirect
broadcast cable), and are tuned to channel 2 ABC. If you bring up the
EPG and press Select on channel 4 it will change to it because my Source
#1 has the following channels (2, 4, 5, 6, 7). Currently if I press
Select on channel 122 it just stays on channel 2 because channel 122 is
not on tuner 0. Can we look in the database and see that channel 122 is
using source 3 and tuner 1 uses source 3 so change to tuner 1 instead of
tuner 0, then change to channel 122 on that card? We might have to
lookup the channelid when pressing Select instead of the channelnum
because I think there can be duplicate channel numbers.
- James
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