[mythtv-users] XMLTV is Broken in North America
Shawn
core at enodev.com
Tue Jul 1 16:13:16 EDT 2003
Well, here's my take.
MythTV is not a HUGE consumer product that will detract from there ad
revenues like TiVo, as it takes more than a novice to get up and running
sufficiently.
Therefore: I don't think they give a flying shit if MythTV sucks data,
so long as it does not load their servers/link down. (10,000 people do
mythfilldatabase at 12:00am).
I think it would be in all our best interest if we create a proxy guide
data service based on XML. Such an infrastructure could conceivably use
/both/ tv.yahoo.com and zap2it where channel data is unambiguously the
same (I know, it's not 100%). At least something like this would provide
a bit of a buffer when zap2it decides to be a stank ass bitch about
their website.
Having said that, it might be nice to explore all angles, including some
pay-for service where a company like yahoo might be persuaded to make
XML dumps available for a fee. Regarding zap2it, I just get the feeling
they're going to be bitches about things.
On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 14:54, Jeff Monks wrote:
> > Why not try to push the tv-channels into publishing the listings in
> > xml-format?
> >
> > It should be in their interest to make the information available.
>
> It's not really in the network's interest to publish information for us to
> use. They HATE digital recording, as it's devaluing their advertising
> model. The easier it is for someone to set up a Myth box (or other free
> DVR), the more people are going to do it, and the less control the
> networks have.
>
> Now, it might be possible to convince zap2it or TV Guide or Yahoo or
> somebody to provide the information for a fee. As long as it's less than
> what Tivo charges, I'd be happy with that.
>
> It should be noted that, technically, the listings those sites provide
> aren't "free" - they're ad-supported, and since XMLTV users aren't seeing
> the ads, it's no surprise they don't want us leeching the listings. The
> thing to do would be to try to open a dialogue now, before we start
> getting any real animosity toward us.
>
> Anyone have any idea how to go about negotiations between a corporation
> and a nebulous, ever-changing group of computer users?
>
>
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