[mythtv] MythTV life-cycle support intentions

Michael T. Dean mtdean at thirdcontact.com
Wed Aug 22 22:31:39 UTC 2012


On 08/22/2012 05:39 PM, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> On 12-08-22 05:15 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>> This is why the approved solution is to put any "not recorded by /this/
>> MythTV instance and database" videos into Video Library.
> With all due respect Mike, I've seen you up on this soapbox a number of
> times in the last week or two and I cannot bite my tongue any more.
>
> Having to flip back and forth between TV Recordings and Videos to find
> and watch my TV recordings is just craziness.  Things that are shown on
> TV belong in TV Reordings and other things, like movies -- ripped from
> the DVDs we buy, belong in Videos.  As does stuff taken off of video
> cameras, etc. -- you know, like, "videos".
>
> b.
>
> [1] and worse, asking my family to, after trying to teaching them to
> flip back and forth -- all the while failing at answering questions
> like: "but why are *some* TV shows in the Videos folder and how do I
> know which ones I will find where, again?"

I suppose, then, that you never ever record any Movies?  ("But why are 
*some* movies in Watch Recordings and others in Video Library and how do 
I know which ones I will find where, again?")  For me, the origin and 
type (TV or movies) of the video is really irrelevant.  If I record 
Stargate SG-1 and love it so much that I decide I want to see the 
Stargate movies and buy the DVDs, I'm not going to keep the TV series in 
Watch Recordings and the movies I ripped from DVD in Video Library--I'll 
put it all together in the one location that allows me to add any video 
and organize it myself.

I was describing the right approach for making sure you can watch 
recordings made after you upgraded but before you decided to downgrade 
instead of fixing the issue.  If you actually plan to keep those 
recordings--they're not just watch and delete shows--then you should 
really put them in Video Library, along with all the other episodes of 
that show.  If you have other related recordings from before the 
upgrade, move them to Video Library, too--even if you don't plan to keep 
them--just to keep them together.  (Video Library is designed for 
managing large collections of video, unlike Watch Recordings, and you 
can organize it how you like and use file names that are meaningful, so 
that the content is always identifiable even if you lose the MythTV 
database and ...)

Of course, making this argument is about like the Live TV argument.  
Those who are unwilling to keep an open mind or who are too set in their 
ways will just never see the benefits.

So the part you're not getting is that I'm not saying to just put random 
things in Video Library--I'm saying put anything there that you plan to 
keep.  What I don't understand is why people seem to think that it makes 
sense to segregate video content--why should you have to teach your 
family to flip back and forth between "TV Recordings" and Videos to find 
something?  (Since I'm guessing that you don't have family meetings to 
let everyone know which movies or TV you've bought on DVD and ripped and 
which other ones you recorded, why would they know whether something 
they're looking for was purchased and ripped or recorded?)  I'm simply 
saying to put virtually everything in Video Library, so all the 
interesting video to watch is available in one location and your family 
just goes into Video Library to find whatever they want (and navigates 
the folders or uses the filters and the sort options to find what they 
want).

Mike


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