[mythtv] Can't we use Bugzilla on mythtv.org to keep things abitmore structured?

[Thomas M. Pluth]

"Honestly, if you have to have everything handed to you what kind of 
developer are you?  :-p"

  If you want to develop something that's useful for programmers and geeks,
nothing else is needed.  If, however, you want to build something that the
general public can embrace and enjoy, getting requirements from users is
crucial. 

  MythTv is a wonderful package.  I've had a blast getting it working
throughout my house (2 backends, 2 separate frontends, file server w/ 1.2TB,
Gigabit LAN, 120" projection HDTV, etc.), but my sister is still flustered
by it, because she is not a techno-geek.  She is learning, however, but she
stills asks why I can't be happy with just a channel change button. 

  Of course, I don't think there would be any legal issue if someone decided
they wanted to take a branch of the code and support it from some other site
(wiki, forum, whatever), but they'd lose the support of the core team in
doing so. 



-----Original Message-----
From: mythtv-dev-bounces at mythtv.org [mailto:mythtv-dev-bounces at mythtv.org]
On Behalf Of J. Donavan Stanley
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 6:28 AM
To: Development of mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv] Can't we use Bugzilla on mythtv.org to keep things
abitmore structured?

Tako Schotanus wrote:

> Ah yes, the _unofficial_ wiki. Remember this? :
>
> "I rather dislike wikis.
>
> Isaac"
>
> Great resource if the main developer won't give his input to it :-)

I was talking about mythtv.info.  The feature request list is one of the 
few unique pieces of content they have.

>> How often do you visit the chat room for devs?  When was the last 
>> time you asked for a suggestion?  When was the last time you say "hey 
>> guys I'm thinking of working on XYZ what do you think?"  You have 
>> plenty of tools at your disposal without Bugzilla.
>
>
> Ah yes! Chatrooms! Of  course, such a treasure trove of readily 
> available information.
>
> 1) this is not very useful if you are looking for something to do NOW, 
> you'll just have to wait for one of the developers to come online

If you've not tried you don't know.  Lots of us are in there at odd 
hours....

> 2) the developers don't know what I'm good at or like doing or how 
> much time I have

Then search the mailing list.  Do some homework...  It's not like is 
even remotely hard to come up with a list of things you could do without 
having it listed in bugzilla.

> 3) I very much doubt that the developers have a list of things to do 
> either, otherwise such a list would have been mailed to this list already

I personally have a rather large todo list.  As do most of the folks who 
submit code, the thing is they're OUR lists we don't impose them on 
others.  Now, if someone were to ask me "is there something I could do" 
I could probably offload any number of things depending on the skill 
level / time constraints. We DO converse about ideas and plans but just 
reading this list doesn't give you the full picture.

> 4) Isaac dislikes Wikis, I dislike chatrooms

Then you're eliminating a large source of information.  It's not 
*critical* but it helps.


Bottom line:  Would Bugzilla be helpful?  Yes!   Are you helpless 
without it?  No?

Honestly, if you have to have everything handed to you what kind of 
developer are you?  :-p
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