[mythtv] Channel change speed

[Boyd II, Willy]

While I do disagree with Mike's particular tack (most small OSS projects
aren't designed with the intention of "making it" or being accepted
by the general public, and I agree wholeheartedly with Isaac's view
that being his pet project, he really doesn't what other's opinions of it
are)

That being said, I think the biggest reason there's debate back-n-forth on
this issue
is that key developers see this complaint as merely a "user preference".
Not a bug, never!
And that's fine...  there's always someone that's going to say "aw, why's it
slow" when in fact it isn't.  In Drew's case (under a second), it's NOT
slow.  It will never be instant.  Drew doesn't see a problem, so there is no
problem [to him].

But for me (and apparently others), it literally takes 4-5 seconds to change
channel, and I'm not exaggerating.  I never said this was definitely due to
a bug -- I never said it was for sure Myth's fault.  Yes maybe the perl
script for my external tuner is slowing it down (although when I do test the
script by hand from the command line it takes a fraction of a second to
change channels...)  Yes for some it could be network latency (but I'm using
only one box)  Yes maybe my DB is slow (but it's on the same box and screams
for Apache).  The point is, by simply saying "it's not slow for us, so go
away or fix it for yourself" you sound like you assume it's not really a
problem and therefore refuse to talk about it.

On the other hand suggestions like Matt's (C channel change) are much much
more helpful, so I'm glad that was posted, because I hadn't come across it
yet.  Something I can look into tonight.

I will however look into the code for myth as well, no help from current
developers,
and maybe I'll find out for myself that it's just plain IMPOSSIBLE myth is
slow at changing channels for some machines/configurations... but until then
I'm willing to discuss it and have my own open dialog for anyone else who
cares to talk about it.

- Willy

-----Original Message-----
From: Isaac Richards [mailto:ijr at po.cwru.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:01 AM
To: Development of mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv] Channel change speed


On Thursday 11 September 2003 09:00 am, Michael Foley wrote:
> Thanks Willy, my main purpose of this post was to
> start an open dialog on the subject.  I've searched
> the posts and have seen complaints on the subject, but
> I haven't seen any real substance as to the reason for
> the problem or anyone spending time on resolving the
> issue.  Without a good user experience when using
> MythTV as a TV PVR, Myth will not make it to the
> Living Room whether someone develops the
> MythEtch-A-Sketch module or ports it to a Atari 2600
> or not.

I always find these sort of pronouncements hilarious.  I don't _care_ if you

use mythtv, or if you consider that it "makes it", or anything like that. 

There is no 'open dialog' on this subject, unless you can provide me with
code 
that addresses what you perceive is a problem.  Then, the entirety of the 
dialog will be 'Hey, thanks, committed to CVS' and maybe a mention in the 
changelog on the website when the next release gets announced.

Isaac
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