[mythtv-users] V35 install on Archlinux using cmake is missing python modules used in find_orphans.py

Wed Feb 19 19:12:54 UTC 2025

On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 8:10 PM James Abernathy <jfabernathy at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:51 PM Roland Ernst <rcrernst at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 7:13 PM Bill Meek <keemllib at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Wednesday 19 February 2025 12:07:45 PM (-06:00), James Abernathy
>>> wrote:
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>>> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 11:44 AM James Abernathy <
>>> jfabernathy at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 11:22 AM Bill Meek <keemllib at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Wednesday 19 February 2025 09:53:55 AM (-06:00), James Abernathy
>>> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:47 AM Bill Meek <keemllib at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> >
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>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > On Wednesday 19 February 2025 08:24:29 AM (-06:00), James
>>> Abernathy
>>> > >> wrote:
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>>> > >> > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:21 AM James Abernathy <
>>> > >> jfabernathy at gmail.com>
>>> > >> > > > wrote:
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>>> > >> > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:11 AM glen <glenb at glenb.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > >> On Wed, 2025-02-19 at 07:42 -0500, James Abernathy wrote:
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >> So I've got a successful build of Mythtv on Archlinux
>>> using the
>>> > >> v35
>>> > >> > > cmake
>>> > >> > > > >> method. I used ansible for my dependencies and it works
>>> fine as
>>> > >> far
>>> > >> > > as I
>>> > >> > > > >> can tell.
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >> However when I try find_orphans.py I get:
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >> ./find_orphans.py
>>> > >> > > > >> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>> > >> > > > >> File "/home/jim/Downloads/./find_orphans.py", line 3, in
>>> > >> <module>
>>> > >> > > > >> from MythTV import MythDB, MythBE, Recorded, MythError
>>> > >> > > > >> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'MythTV'
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >> I built using sudo like this:
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >> sudo cmake --preset qt5 -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr 2>&1 |
>>> tee
>>> > >> > > > >> ~/stage1-log
>>> > >> > > > >> sudo cmake --build build-qt5 2>&1 | tee ~/stage2.log
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >> I looked through the stage1 and 2 log files I teed off and
>>> > >> didn't see
>>> > >> > > > >> anything missing except qt5webkit which is not needed.
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >> I can post those logs to Google Drive if needed.
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >> Jim A
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > >> is mythtv folder in the latest python on your machine in
>>> > >> > > site-packages ?
>>> > >> > > > >>
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > No it seems that the build process didn't even build them???
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > sudo updatedb
>>> > >> > > > > sudo plocate site-packages | grep -i mythtv
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > Shows nothing.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > Jim A
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > BTW the link to the google drive with the stage 1&2 logs is:
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >>
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1v4beUzxygecF5_Sq4g2OR1s7s6CN9W4u?usp=drive_link
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > Jim A
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > 1. I see pip is missing and it's not in ansible, please try
>>> pacman and
>>> > >> > > install python-pip
>>> > >> > > And python3-pip (I don't see any python3 packages in the pacman
>>> > >> ansible
>>> > >> > > tasks.)
>>> > >> > > I'll push if one of those works.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > 2. If it doesn't help, try adding this:
>>> -DMYTH_BINDINGS_INSTALL_ROOT=/
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > 3. Are you running cmake as root?
>>> > >> > > Including user overrides
>>> > >> /root/.config/MythTV/BuildOverridesPost.cmake
>>> > >> > > That's my choice as I mimic the 'old' make/sudo make install.
>>> > >> > > --
>>> > >> > > Bill
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > python-pip was missing and I installed it. However, python3-pip
>>> is not
>>> > >> > found on the Arch repository.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > I'll see what I can do with that.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Jim A
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Looks like: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Python#Other_versions
>>> is
>>> > >> one of the
>>> > >> answers. If typing: python --version now shows 2.7, then I don't
>>> > >> understand.
>>> > >> That's been EOL since 1/1/2020.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Don't know if all packages python3 packages used here are on AUR
>>> (and my
>>> > >> Dockere is broken right now).
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> Bill
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > > That error is the same one I get if I try to build from source like
>>> the
>>> > > wiki says using the old ./configure, make, sudo make install. I can
>>> do an
>>> > > install fine with the AUR package, mythtv-git, but I have to modify
>>> the
>>> > > PKGBUILD file to use v35 and eliminate the python-future dependency.
>>> > > However, I can't remember the last time I did that successfully if I
>>> test
>>> > > find_orphans.py.
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm betting it's a dependency issue, but having to depend on AUR
>>> > > maintainers for weird Python packages is suspect at best. In my
>>> NUCBOX,
>>> > > it's easy to switch out the NVME drive and test something else. So
>>> I've
>>> > > pulled the Arch SSD and put it in timeout so it can think about how
>>> it
>>> > > screwed up. In the meantime I'll test something on Debian that I
>>> wanted to
>>> > > do for comparison.
>>> > >
>>> > > I did find something about pip and AUR. I can't say I understand all
>>> of it:
>>> > >
>>> > > All python PKGBUILDs are built with --without-ensurepip, and pip is
>>> > > provided via the python-pip package, which is built for the
>>> system-wide
>>> > > python environment as a "site-packages" package. If you build any
>>> other
>>> > > python version from the AUR, then you're supposed to use virtual
>>> > > environments for any of those other python versions. In those virtual
>>> > > environments, pip gets installed separately, and this is where you
>>> can also
>>> > > upgrade or even remove it.
>>> > >
>>> > > $ yay -S python311
>>> > > $ python -m virtualenv -p /usr/bin/python3.11 /path/to/venv
>>> > > $ source /path/to/venv/bin/activate
>>> > > $ python --version
>>> > > $ python -m pip --version
>>> > >
>>> > > Jim A
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > As a comparison, on an Archlinux VM I used the ansible dependencies for
>>> > mythtv and then git cloned the AUR mythtv-git.
>>> >
>>> > I modified only the fixes/35 from 34 in the PKGBUILD file, and then
>>> built
>>> > the package with makepkg -si
>>> >
>>> > Once it complete I did the sudo updatedb, plocate site-packages | grep
>>> -i
>>> > mythtv and this time I got a bunch of files.
>>> >
>>> > So I have not built a full mythtv combo BE/FE but this answers part of
>>> the
>>> > question.
>>> >
>>> > Something is different between the new cmake build and the old
>>> ./configure,
>>> > make, sudo make install that is keeping the python bindings from being
>>> > built for Archlinux.
>>> >
>>> > Jim A
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you try adding: -DMYTH_BINDINGS_INSTALL_ROOT=/
>>> on your cmake command line?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bill
>>>
>>
>> Jim,
>> what does the file "MythTV/_versions.py" state as "INSTALL_PREFIX" on
>> the ArchLinux build?
>> Does it match the path of the installed MythTV python bindings?
>>
>> > Something is different between the new cmake build and the old
>> ./configure,
>> > make, sudo make install that is keeping the python bindings from being
>> > built for Archlinux.
>>
>> Nothing is different between the old make and the new cmake process.
>> If the python installation is protected by the file "EXTERNALLY-MANAGED"
>> no one except the package manager is allowed to install to it.
>>
>> Roland
>> That's the problem there is no MythTV/_versions.py file anywhere on the
>> system where I'm building mythtv.
>
>
>   plocate _version.py
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/_pytest/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/ansible/posix/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/cisco/mso/plugins/modules/mso_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/cisco/nxos/plugins/action/vtp_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/cisco/nxos/plugins/modules/nxos_vtp_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/crypto/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/general/plugins/lookup/collection_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/mysql/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/network/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/network/plugins/modules/avi_api_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/postgresql/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/rabbitmq/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/sops/plugins/filter/_latest_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/windows/plugins/modules/win_file_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/community/zabbix/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/fortinet/fortimanager/plugins/modules/fmgr_waf_profile_
> constraint_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/google/cloud/plugins/modules/gcp_mlengine_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/hetzner/hcloud/plugins/module_utils/vendor/hcloud/_vers
> ion.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/kubernetes/core/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/module_utils/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/modules/content_export_versi
> on.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/modules/content_import_versi
> on.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/ansible_collections/theforeman/foreman/plugins/modules/content_view_version
> .py
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/dateutil/_version.py
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/iniconfig/_version.py
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/paramiko/_version.py
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/pip/_vendor/urllib3/_version.py
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/pluggy/_version.py
>
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/setuptools/_distutils/tests/test_version.py
> /usr/lib/python3.13/site-packages/urllib3/_version.py
> [jim at nucboxg3 build]$
>
> This is on the cmake build machine. Do you want to see what it is on the
> other arch machine where I did the traditional PKGBUILD build?
>
> Jim A
>

> This is on the cmake build machine. Do you want to see what it is on the
other arch machine where I did the traditional PKGBUILD build?
Yes

Roland
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