[mythtv-users] Playback drops with news crawl

Roland Ernst rcrernst at gmail.com
Sat Feb 15 15:44:32 UTC 2025


On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 4:08 PM Barry Martin <barry3martin at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Will!
>
> It sounds like a disk drive error if the file copy fails at that point.
> If the file copy fails there is not much chance that MythTV could read
> past that point. I recommend replacing the drive. Copy as much as you
> can from the old drive to the new drive.
>
> Easy to check by installing smartmontools and running:
> sudo smartctl -a *dev*<device>   (e.g. /dev/sda)
>
> It might be obvious that it's dying, or if not, I'm sure somebody here
> could provide some insight if you paste the input here.
>
>
> I'm guessing with all the 'old-age' and 'pre-fails' in the output and the
> drive is around ten years old Peter's suggestion to replace it is probably
> a good one.  ...When putting together this new Backend I sort of grabbed
> the first about-the-right-size drive I saw in the box and didn't even look
> at the date - oops!
>
>
> Anyway, below are the test results.  I'm thinking your comments would be a
> great way for me and the rest of the readers to learn.  I'm also thinking
> it might be a good idea for me to create a script to look at the smartctl
> results to monitor the hard drives in the various computers around here and
> so catch any problems early.  So the sub-question is which items should I
> be monitoring?
>
> <start of test results>
>
> barry at BE5:~$ sudo smartctl -a  /dev/sdb
> smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-linux-6.8.0-51-generic] (local build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke,
> www.smartmontools.org
>
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Model Family:     Western Digital Re
> Device Model:     WDC WD4000FYYZ-05UL1B0
> Serial Number:    WD- <BJM: Deleted>
> LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 25f977da3
> Firmware Version: 00.0NS05
> User Capacity:    4,000,787,030,016 bytes [4.00 TB]
> Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
> Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
> Device is:        In smartctl database 7.3/5528
> ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)
> SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
> Local Time is:    Sat Feb 15 08:25:13 2025 CST
> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
> SMART support is: Enabled
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
>
> General SMART Values:
> Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
>                     was never started.
>                     Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
> Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine
> completed
>                     without error or no self-test has ever
>                     been run.
> Total time to complete Offline
> data collection:         (48480) seconds.
> Offline data collection
> capabilities:              (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
>                     Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
>                     Suspend Offline collection upon new
>                     command.
>                     Offline surface scan supported.
>                     Self-test supported.
>                     Conveyance Self-test supported.
>                     Selective Self-test supported.
> SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
>                     power-saving mode.
>                     Supports SMART auto save timer.
> Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
>                     General Purpose Logging supported.
> Short self-test routine
> recommended polling time:      (   2) minutes.
> Extended self-test routine
> recommended polling time:      ( 523) minutes.
> Conveyance self-test routine
> recommended polling time:      (   5) minutes.
> SCT capabilities:            (0x70bd)    SCT Status supported.
>                     SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
>                     SCT Feature Control supported.
>                     SCT Data Table supported.
>
> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED
> WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
>   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   182   051    Pre-fail
> Always       -       15
>   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   227   227   021    Pre-fail
> Always       -       7633
>   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
> Always       -       90
>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail
> Always       -       0
>   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   100   253   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
>   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   065   065   000    Old_age
> Always       -       26111
>  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
>  11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
>  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
> Always       -       90
>  16 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0022   003   197   000    Old_age
> Always       -       189260942824
> 183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
> 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
> Always       -       50
> 193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
> Always       -       39
> 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   112   093   000    Old_age
> Always       -       40
> 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
> 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
> Always       -       8
> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   253   000    Old_age
> Offline      -       0
> 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
> Always       -       0
> 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   100   253   000    Old_age
> Offline      -       0
>
> SMART Error Log Version: 1
> No Errors Logged
>
> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
> Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining
> LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
> # 1  Short offline       Aborted by host               10%
> 20981         -
>
> SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
>  SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
>     1        0        0  Not_testing
>     2        0        0  Not_testing
>     3        0        0  Not_testing
>     4        0        0  Not_testing
>     5        0        0  Not_testing
> Selective self-test flags (0x0):
>   After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
> If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
>
> The above only provides legacy SMART information - try 'smartctl -x' for
> more
>
> <end of test results>
>
> The replacement drive has been ordered: for $10 more I got a 6 TB over 4
> TB  WD6004FZBX:  256 MB cache (seems more is better), 7200 RPM, (seems less
> of a bottleneck possibility that the 5400 RPM versions), 5 year warranty
> (seems if the manufacturer stands behind their product for a longer time),
> Transfer Rate up to 267 Mbps (faster is better, though is it reading or
> writing....).   SSDs and NVMe's are faster but I'm not a fan of when they
> fail they take everything.  OTOH I do back up my hard drives.......
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Barry
>

The above information confuses me:
26111 of power on hours are roughly 3 years, but the hint on
the end of your test results says
The above only provides legacy SMART information - try 'smartctl -x' for
more

I always use the "-x" option.
Could you please post that output with the "-x" option ?

I have 24 TBytes of multimedia data, almost no backup, and thought
the WD drives work at least 5 years, until I replace them.
I am getting nervous....

Thanks,
Roland
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