[mythtv-users] MythMusic "Listen to radio stream" data updates.

[John Pilkington]

On 08/02/2025 22:00, John Pilkington wrote:
> On 08/02/2025 14:04, Paul Harrison wrote:
>> On 07/02/2025 20:24, David Hampton via mythtv-users wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 11:18 -0500, David Hampton wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 14:31 +0000, John Pilkington wrote:
>>>>> MusicMetadata reports the frontend's attempts to refresh the radio
>>>>> stream data, but the source file used by the central server is
>>>>> showing
>>>>> its age.  What I hear does not always match the display, and
>>>>> QIODevice::read is liable to crash with a report that the device is
>>>>> not
>>>>> open.
>>>> Yes, the data file is out of date.  I'm surprised you're getting
>>>> crashes though.
>>>>
>>>>> Any chance of an update?
>>>> Not in the short term.  The original data source has disappeared.
>>>> From
>>>> Paul H in 2022:
>>>>
>>>>      It's been brought to my attention that the RadioSure website
>>>>      we get the raw data for our radio stream database updates
>>>>      from has been down for at least 3 weeks so the database is
>>>>      no longer being updated.
>>>>
>>>>      The RadioSure website is registered in Russia so it's
>>>>      possible the reason it is down is connected to the conflict
>>>>      in the Ukraine.
>>>>
>>>> I just checked the RadioSure website, and it now redirects to a
>>>> gambling site in Thailand.
>>>>
>>>> A google search for RadioSure turns up a newer site at
>>>> https://www.radiosure.fr/ that hopes to be a replacement for the old
>>>> site.  I don't know the formats of any of this, so I don't know how
>>>> easy it will be to get the scripts updated for the newer site.
>>> BTW, the site says its powered by the radio-browser.info database, so
>>> that's the original data source.  Its a community populated database
>>> like musicbrainz.org or thetvdb.com.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>
>> There was really no comparison between the RadioSure database and the 
>> radio-browser one.  The first one was completely crowd sourced but 
>> with moderators checking the changes to the database. It was fast 
>> moving with dozens of changes committed per day. It meant any problems 
>> or inconsistencies could be fixed quickly. On the other hand the 
>> radio-browser dev until quite recently would not allow anyone other 
>> than the stream owner to fix anything so the DB was a complete mess, 
>> may still be I haven't checked recently,  with lots of inconsistencies 
>> and duplicate streams because often the only way to fix any errors was 
>> to re-add a stream. Thankfully the dev has finally relented and kind 
>> of now allows streams to be added or edited by anyone but only if you 
>> have a gitlab login. There is a fairly good API that could easily be 
>> used by MythMusic to replace the existing stream DB if anyone is 
>> interested (I wont hold my breath).
>>
>>
>> Paul H
> 
> Thank you both for these comments.  I have seen some of the API stuff 
> and might be able, sometime, to get somthing from it.  But I'm not 
> really wanting access to the entire web-radio environment and will 
> probably stick, for the time being, with the few stations that are 
> giving me audio playback now.
Maybe it's worth noting that there are other ways of playing these 
streams, although they may not provide the other features of MythMusic. 
I've experimented briefly with the Web player ( radio-li-se ) that is 
recommended here:

https://www.radio-browser.info/users

and it appears to work well, although I haven't yet found all the 
streams that I used to get.
> 
> John P
> 
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