[mythtv-users] adding HDHR to system

James Abernathy jfabernathy at gmail.com
Sat Mar 2 21:13:52 UTC 2019


On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 4:07 PM David Engel <david at istwok.net> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 02, 2019 at 01:40:43PM -0500, James Abernathy wrote:
> >
> > On 3/2/19 1:29 PM, Greg Oliver wrote:
> > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 12:07 PM James Abernathy <jfabernathy at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:jfabernathy at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     On 2/26/19 5:55 PM, Jim Abernathy wrote:
> > >     > Last project was eliminating my HDHR Quatro and replacing it
> with a
> > >     > Hauppauge WinTV Quad.
> > >     >
> > >     > That is complete and I'm using XMLTV sdjson_sqlite grabber.  At
> > >     this
> > >     > point I'm stable, but on occasions I'm recording on all 4
> > >     channels of
> > >     > the WinTV and thought about adding the Quatro back for Live TV
> only.
> > >     >
> > >     > I can use the HDHomerun Viewer to watch live tv on the Quatro,
> but
> > >     > it's not integrated with Mythtv.
> > >     >
> > >     > So my question is can I add the Quatro back into mythtv using the
> > >     > Blackbox external recorder, mythhdhrrecorder, and still use my
> > >     exiting
> > >     > EPG database I setup for the WinTV using
> > >     tv_grab_zz_sdjson_sqlite. I
> > >     > don't want to screw up my exiting recordings or pending
> recordings.
> > >     > Can I setup the mythtvhdhrrecorder to use my existing SD XMLTV
> > >     source
> > >     > or do I have to have a new video source just for the
> > >     mythhdhrrecorder???
> > >     >
> > >     > Jim A
> > >     >
> > >     I did some experimenting and I found that you can NOT just add a
> > >     mythhdhrrecorder tuner and have it use the existing Video Source
> > >     used by
> > >     other tuners (WinTV QuadHD). It fails on open.
> > >
> > >     So my question: Is there a requirement that each Capture Card have
> > >     its
> > >     own separate Video Source defined even if each Video Source is
> using
> > >     SchedulesDirect XMLTV sdjson grabber_sqlite? My assumption is a 4
> > >     tuner
> > >     card would use the same video source for all 4 tuners. Possibly if
> > >     you
> > >     had 2 exact same model Capture Cards then they they might use the
> > >     same
> > >     Video Source.
> > >
> > >     Are there any hard and fast rules on when you can use the same
> video
> > >     source??
> > >
> > >     Jim A
> > >
> > > There must be something else going on there because I have done exactly
> > > what you describe several times.
> > >
> > > I have 3 lineups - one for OTA US (zipcode), 1 for DirecTV and 1 for
> > > uVerse. I can bind the OTA lineup to any number of cards/HDHRs
> > > simultaneously without issue.  Is there anything else in the log when
> > > you fire the backend back up?
> >
> >
> > I think this issue is specific to using the Blackbox external recorder,
> > mythhdhrrecorder. I went back and add the HDHR as HDHR tuners and just
> > created Input Connections for these tuners using the existing SD video
> > source and it worked fine.
> >
> > So I guess if I want to use the mythhdhrrecorder for it's TCP/IP usage of
> > the HDHR, then I'll have to rebuild from the ground up and define one
> video
> > source for the tuners on mythhdhrrecorder and one for the hauppauge WinTV
> > quad.
> >
> > Which I will not do, so I'll stuck the what I have.
>
> mythhdhrrecorder only supports tuning by virtual channel number.  Your
> Hauppauge WinTV almost certainly only supports tuning by
> frequency/program tuning so it can't share the same videosource with
> mythhdhrrecorder.  The internal, HDHR recorder supports both virtual
> channel number and frequency/program tuning so it can share the same
> videosource with your Hauppauge WinTV.
>
> David
> --
> David Engel
> david at istwok.net
>
>
> Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense.
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