[mythtv-users] Is Nvidia Shield the future for Mythtv Frontend??
James Abernathy
jfabernathy at gmail.com
Thu Jan 3 17:46:25 UTC 2019
On 1/3/19 12:23 PM, Greg Oliver wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 9:41 PM David Engel <david at istwok.net
> <mailto:david at istwok.net>> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 05:06:53PM -0600, Greg Oliver wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 4:49 PM David Engel <david at istwok.net
> <mailto:david at istwok.net>> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 04:16:24PM -0600, Greg Oliver wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 4:02 PM David Engel
> <david at istwok.net <mailto:david at istwok.net>> wrote:
> > > > > Note that you only need one keyboard configured per hub.
> Just include
> > > > > it in any activity that needs it. For example, on one of
> my hubs, I
> > > > > have a Shield, FireTV Stick 4k and a ChromeBox and have
> the same
> > > > > keyboard device included in each device activity. The
> keyboard
> > > > > actions always get sent to whatever bluetooth device you
> are connected
> > > > > to.
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure what you mean here. How can the single hub
> talk BT to any
> > > > device just by being included in it's activity? They must
> be paired
> > > > individually. I currently have my Hub paired with my linux
> frontend,
> > > > Windows10 Surface Book Pro and my Shield. Of course they
> all show the
> > > > Harmony Keyboard entry, but it is in fact connected to them all
> > > separately
> > > > and simultaneously. Care to explain more what you described?
> > >
> > > You still have to pair the hub with each, "main", device. For
> > > example, my hub is individually paired with my Shield, Stick and
> > > ChrhomeBox. The keyboard does not need to be paired and, in fact,
> > > can't be paired with anything. It just auto-magically works with
> > > whatever, paired device is currently connected. When I press a
> button
> > > bound to a keyboard action while my Shield activity is active,
> they
> > > key gets sent to the shield. If I switch to the Stick
> activity, the
> > > key gets send to the Stick. The same goes for the ChromeBox.
> > >
> > >
> > Ahh, I got you - you are referring to an actual keyboard, not
> the logical
> > HarmonyKeyboard the hub emits to the devices. Re-reading your email
> > actually says that!
> >
> > I'm a little slow today - too many holiday drinks and my liver
> is asking
> > why it stopped today :)
> >
> > So this brings a new question - I never knew you could add a BT
> keyboard to
> > the hub and use it's keypresses with the remote - that is pretty
> slick - I
> > will definitely re-work my hub to do that as soon as I get the
> original
> > circle key figured out later.
>
> No, sorry, you don't have it yet. I realize the unusual usage can be
> difficult to grasp. Once you do, however, I think it will make
> perfect sense. It does to my engineering mind, anyway.
>
> Please try the following steps with your hub. Note that this assumes
> you have already configured your Shield as an Nvidia Shield/Gaming
> Console with it's limited button support.
>
> 1. Steps to create the keyboard device.
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Switch to the Devices tab.
>
> Choose Edit Devices.
>
> Choose + (Add) Device.
>
> Choose Computer.
>
> Choose Windows.
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Choose No (Don't create activity)
>
> Choose Edit Devices.
>
> Choose Windows Computer.
>
> Change the name to Windows Keyboard.
>
> Choose X (Done).
>
> 2. Steps to add the keyboard device to the activity.
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Switch to the Activities tab.
>
> Choose Edit Activities.
>
> Choose the Shield activity.
>
> Choose Re-Run Activity.
>
> Check the box for Windows Keyboard.
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Finish setting up the activity normally.
>
> 3. Steps to customize the remote buttons.
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Switch to the Activities tab.
>
> Choose Edit Activities.
>
> Choose the Shield activity.
>
> Choose Customize Remote.
>
> Choose a button to customize.
>
> Choose Short Press.
>
> Choose Device.
>
> Here's where the magic finally happens. You'll have the option of
> choosing your Shield device, TV, audio device and maybe others.
> You'll also have the option of choosing the new, Windows Keyboard
> device.
>
> Choose Windows Keyboard.
>
> Choose Command.
>
> Choose one of the many keyboard commands. If you had instead chosen
> the Shield device above, you would have only had a very limited number
> of Shield commands to choose from here.
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Finish customizing any other remote buttons.
>
> 4. Re-use the Windows Keyboard device with other activities.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Repeat steps 2 and 3 with another activity.
>
> What you have effectively done is created an artificial, virtual
> device with the full set of keyboard actions that you can add to any
> activity. Whenever you customize a button to send an action from that
> device, the hub will actually send it to the bluetooth device already
> paired for that activity.
>
> The advantage you gain from doing all of this is that you can still
> access any custom actions that your real device might support in
> addition to all fo the standard, keyboard actions. If your real
> device doesn't have any custom actions, then you haven't gained
> anything. If it does, however, you would have lost those actions had
> you originally configured your hub to treat the device as a just a
> plain, old computer.
>
>
> I have done this over and over again now and even talked to Logi
> support today - they told me it will not work unless I pair the
> Windows PC via bluetooth, but I have to sort of disagree with them
> since the full keyboard is now available in the Shield Activity and I
> can type with it. It is not available without this device in the
> activity, so I know it works.
>
> The remote always provides the dreaded "You must use the Harmony App
> to pair this device" message every time I press a button provisioned
> for the Windows Keyboard.
I've never got that message?? wonder why.
>
> I have factory reset everything several times to no avail. Anyone run
> inito this and knw how to get around it? Like I said, the app works
> as described, but the remote displays the pair message (and yes, I
> have paired with Menu+Mute several times as well) over and over no
> matter what I do.
I setup a the m to (windows keyboard (WKB) menu, the DVR to Shield Home,
Guide to WKB s, Info to WKB i. Things like that. It's a great way to
control Mythfrontend. I made sure to have all the shield button cover
so the remote works for both functions.
Jim A
>
> TiA,
>
> Greg
>
> David
> --
> David Engel
> david at istwok.net <mailto:david at istwok.net>
>
>
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