[mythtv-users] Missing season episode numbering while it is there

Hika van den Hoven hikavdh at gmail.com
Wed Apr 3 21:25:42 UTC 2019


Hoi Mark,

Tuesday, April 2, 2019, 12:02:46 PM, you wrote:



> On 2 April 2019 8:13:47 pm Hika van den Hoven <hikavdh at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Hoi Mark,
>>
>> Tuesday, April 2, 2019, 6:51:41 AM, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2 April 2019 12:41:05 pm Hika van den Hoven <hikavdh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Hoi Hika,
>>>>
>>>> Sunday, March 31, 2019, 5:27:40 AM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hoi All,
>>>>
>>>>> I have for over a year noticed that season episode numbering often
>>>>> does not show on a recording. I maintain the graber I use and know it
>>>>> was supplied. I see when pressing info that the data is there as a
>>>>> correct SxEx statement is shown, but metadata shows zip. I see this
>>>>> most often when there is no episode title. Actually then the failure
>>>>> is 100%.
>>>>
>>>>> My present guess is that before entering graberdata a ttvdb check is
>>>>> done on the episode title, which obviously will fail on absence of
>>>>> such a title.
>>>>
>>>> So nobody has ever seen anything like this or has a clue about what is
>>>> happening?
>>
>>> My understanding is that a missing subtitle (episode title) would be
>>> considered inaccurate EPG data (for a "valid" ttvdb episode). I handle this
>>> by getting the grabber to check for missing data (like subtitle), and
>>> update data (like description) from ttvdb before xmltv load. helps greatly
>>> with duplicate detection processes and data consistency.
>>
>> But then what about a series without subtitles and only numbering,
>> even in ttvdb. Naming them episode 1 etc. mixes up the seasons. Why
>> not add the numbering from the grabber.
>> Or series so new or foreign that they do not exist in ttvdb or not
>> with the translated title. My grabber does a ttvdb check itself even
>> adding a ttvdb episode number if found.

> I agree, particularly the note about using "Episode [1-x]" as episode 
> title. However that is my understanding.

> I suspect that the SxEx is not prioritised more highly from the EPG data
> simply because historically it rarely ever existed so was never factored
> much into the logic.


Thinking about it I remember maybe a year ago experimenting with
naming episodes "Aflevering x" (the dutch name for episode) which
resulted on a metadatalookup in a change to the season number. So I
stopped that. Could it be that metadatalookup removes SE numbering on
failure to find a match on episode title? If so I should encapsulate
metadatalookup in a script that first extracts the numbering, does a
lookup and then restores the numbering.
I am talking still 0.27 but still if so that would be a very bad thing
if that would be needed. A lookup is a lookup and should never change
anything on a failure. Actually I see graphics after the lookup, which
is the main reason for doing the lookup. There is only a failure on
identifying the episode on the title, because there is none.

I by the way found out that on Gentoo there is an experimental 29.1
ebuild available. As said it will be some time before I try it.

Tot mails,
  Hika                            mailto:hikavdh at gmail.com

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