[mythtv-users] EOL for MythArchive, MythZoneminder, MythBrowser and MythMusic Re: linking mythtv with zoneminder live view

[James Linder]

> On 27 Mar 2018, at 2:53 am, mythtv-users-request at mythtv.org wrote:
> 
>> 
>> That is a recipe for disaster - it could kill the entire MythTV
>> project.
> 
> How do you figure?  Do you mean it would kill it for you (and everyone
> else unwilling to use a FE other than Myth's FE) or would kill it for
> the community/developers -- as in cease to be developed?
> 
> Because the way FOSS works is that developers/contributors scratch
> their own itch and share the results of their scratching.  The project
> lives as long as the developers and contributors continue to itch and
> scratch.  What non-developer/contributor users think is mostly
> irrelevant.
> 
> So really what is coming about here is an opportunity for
> developer/contributors that have an itch that is not otherwise being
> scratched to scratch their own itches -- the MythFE itch.  But if
> nobody wants to scratch it, then yes, MythFE dies.
> 
> But don't mistake MythFE dying from meaning the whole project dies. 
> The BE can live on and indeed could flourish with the re-focusing of
> the (presumably) thinning (or maybe it's just a shifting interest)
> developer effort into it.  The Services API can become a first class
> citizen enabling all manner of other media playing projects that
> already have their own developer pool maintaining them to have a first-
> class plugin for the MythBE.
> 
>> The users of MythTV use mythfrontend - that is what they see
>> and love.  Only a small minority use other frontends (eg Kodi), and
>> they still have to use mythfrontend for some things Kodi does not do.
> 
> Since you don't "not use" MythFE you can't presume to know what non-
> MythFE user do.  I have not touched MythFE in years.
> 
>> Mythfrontend's ability to be used from a remote control and to do
>> everything that is necessary for excellent and comfortable TV viewing
>> must remain!
> 
> Kodi (and I am sure other) does this just fine.  You can use a remote
> just as easily as with MythFE.  In fact, remote control options of Kodi
> are far and away much more plentiful than MythFE including not only
> traditional IR remotes but smart-phone app remotes, etc.
> 
>> And I would also say that removing all the plugins is a bad idea too.
> 
> So maybe you can maintain what you like and use.
> 
>> Having
>> to change to something else at her age (85) is not going to happen 
> 
> But it will if MythFE ceases to be, unless you or somebody else steps
> up to continue to maintain it.
> 
>> That would be serious reduction in her quality of
>> life
> 
> That she is getting out of the kindness of somebody else's effort,
> which that somebody else is entirely free to stop spending once that
> effort ceases to provide them the required return.  So again, you could
> take over maintenance if it's that important to you.
> 
>> The
>> joy and beauty of the plugins is that, like mythfrontend, they are
>> remote control operated.
> 
> You do know that Kodi has the ability to play music, and is fully
> functional with a remote control, right?

My workflow is
a) record a show
b) watch, invoking cutlist editor if I think that I may want to save it and as needed ofcourse, often during the recording
c) use mythtranscode to save as a movie (for uPnP)

My try of kodi left me frustrated and not happy. Has my try of kodi been not fair?
My casual and not technical or even rigourous check shows streaming from say netflix is good but streaming from mythtv is somewhat iffy. Again am I being not fair

James