[mythtv-users] Warning: Do not install nvidia-304.132 package

[Hika van den Hoven]

Hoi Thomas,

Monday, November 28, 2016, 5:03:17 PM, you wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:01 AM Hika van den Hoven <hikavdh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hoi Anthony,
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>  Monday, November 28, 2016, 7:03:14 AM, you wrote:
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 >> On 28 November 2016 at 13:00, Stephen Worthington <stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz> wrote:
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 >> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:32:53 -0700, you wrote:
 >>
  >>>On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Stephen Worthington <
  >>>stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz> wrote:
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>> Its an Nvidia bug, not Ubuntu - there have already been several
  >>>> threads on the list about it.  If your Nvidia chip is recent enough,
  >>>> you can change to using the Nvidia 340 drivers which are still fine.
  >>>> The 304.132 drivers only work properly when run from root.
  >>>>
  >>>> Correct, but also potentially wrong; this is a bit of a chimera.
  >>>
  >>>While a vast majority of bugs are the result of Upstream code having
  >>>problems, "long term stable" releases should, in a portion of the
  >>>population's opinion, be held to a higher standard of testing before
  >>>release to the masses.
  >>>
  >>>Granted, Nvidia code isn't quite as server-critical as a working Kernel, or
  >>>PHP with all the security patches and none of the feature bloat...
  >>>(a specific consideration 'stable' releases take, ABI does not change and
  >>>featureset is identical - one which I, and people like Charles Cazabon of
  >>>'getmail' notoriety, particularly take issue to, because if a feature
  >>>addition fixes a long standing bug and at the same time uses more secure
  >>>coding practices, is it really a bugfix, a security patch, or a feature
  >>>addition?)
  >>>
  >>>That all said, while the MythTV population has now tested, reported bugs
  >>>with, and (hopefully) contributed the same bugs to Ubuntu, Ubuntu's own
  >>>testers could have a more structured methodology to verify VDPAU
  >>>acceleration as part of a release procedure.  I don't own an Nvidia card so
  >>>I cannot propose such a methodology, but this is a potential.
  >>>
  >>>If nobody yet has filed a bug on Ubuntu's tracker, now'd be a good time for
  >>>one of those who have tested to do such.  As a community effort, discussion
  >>>and support is great, but the buck has to be passed up the foodchain until
  >>>someone in charge of packaging can fix it somehow.
  >>>
  >>>Mike
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 >>  I filed a bug as soon as it happened to me, from the crash reporter,
 >>  but it looks like nothing is being done at the Ubuntu end of things -
 >>  people just seem to be waiting for Nvidia to release a fixed version.
 >>
 >>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/1639215
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 >> Yes this is an upstream nvidia issue but as per one of the
 >> suggestions the packagers should have, created a fake version that
 >> rolls back to the previous release, although this probably would
 >> break any automated build scripts.
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 >> Cheers,
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 >> Anthony 
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>  Or at least make that previous release available again!!! So people
>  CAN rollback.
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>  Tot mails,
>    Hika                            mailto:hikavdh at gmail.com

> The previous release was available, that's how he was able to
> install it... The uninstall first should be unnecessary. 

I was talking about the previous 304.131 that disappeared within a few
days. He rolled back to a much older one 304.117 and as I have seen
before was lucky to find it at all! They should always keep one or two
older versions available. Just in case and it only costs some
disk-space somewhere.
As said on another thread, on Gentoo 304.131 is still the default 304
version with 304.131-r1, 304.131-r4 and 304.132 still in testing. They
are to hasty on Ubuntu!

Tot mails,
  Hika                            mailto:hikavdh at gmail.com

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