[mythtv-users] Why won't Fox do 16:9 in SD?

Rob Davis rob at davis-family.info
Mon Feb 15 20:50:47 UTC 2016


SD Cable Tuner?  Is that something provided by the cable companies?

I would say it's a problem with the way the stream goes from KAYU to your
CableCo.  One or the other is converting to SD badly.  Is KAYU a standalone
station or do they have a sibling station?

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Jerome Yuzyk <jerome at supernet.ab.ca>
wrote:

> On Monday, February 15, 2016 09:42:35 AM Rob Davis wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 9:50 PM, Jerome Yuzyk <jerome at supernet.ab.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone know why Fox seems to be the only network that doesn't
> > > broadcast in 16:9 on SD? All the other channels I have take their HD
> signal
> > > and down-scale it to fit the SD box, but Fox just clips it like in the
> > > early days of HD.
> > >
> > >
> > Not quite sure what you mean.  Fox itself is normally in HD 16:9.  The
> > local station may produce their own content, outside of Fox Networks
> > primetime schedule, which may be HD or SD depending on the level of
> > investment at the station.  This signal is then, normally sent to a cable
> > company, which may produce and SD and an HD version for cable companies.
> >
> > There used to be an old Fox multiplexer which broadcast the Fox uplink in
> > 720p with 5.1 audio, but if you wanted to add anything to that stream, it
> > would only allow overlay in SD at 4.3 in stereo.  Hence, if you ever had
> a
> > weather overlay or storm warning, it would switch and sound terrible.
> > Local content would also be broadcast in this format - and sound really
> bad!
> >
> > However, as the majority of local stations now show syndicated and news
> in
> > HD, the Fox multiplexer has improved and allows overlay and local content
> > in 720p with 5.1 audio.  The easiest way to show you don't like the SD
> > downmix is to switch to a competitor and use Hulu for Fox content.  Hit
> the
> > local station where it hurts, their viewership!  It will hit their bottom
> > line and force their holding company to upgrade.
> >
> > However, if OTA looks good, the blame lays with the cable company
> > downmixing shoddily.
>
> When I capture from Fox (KAYU) on my SD cable tuner, HD programs like
> NASCAR and NFL are clipped right and left rather than being letterboxed.
> Commercials aren't. When I see other stations use Fox content, like news
> reports, the picture is similarly clipped. So it seems that Fox is just
> chopping their HD content rather than scaling it.
>
> When I capture from NBC, ABC, CBS, or pretty much any other cable channel,
> HD programs are letterboxed on my SD cable tuner.
>
> It's only Fox that chops rather than scales.
>
> I was wondering if any broadcast-knowledgeable readers here know why that
> is.
>
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