[mythtv-users] "phantom" subtitles on DVD

Hika van den Hoven hikavdh at gmail.com
Mon Nov 24 04:46:50 UTC 2014


Hoi Ian,

Monday, November 24, 2014, 5:37:26 AM, you wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Hika van den Hoven <hikavdh at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hoi Ian,
>  

>  Monday, November 24, 2014, 2:58:24 AM, you wrote:
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 >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Ian Evans <dheianevans at gmail.com> wrote:
 >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Ian Evans <dheianevans at gmail.com> wrote:
 >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Ian Evans <dheianevans at gmail.com> wrote:
 >> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jim Stichnoth <stichnot at gmail.com> wrote:
 >> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Ian Evans <dheianevans at gmail.com> wrote:
 >> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Doug Lytle <support at drdos.info> wrote:
 >>
 >> Ian Evans wrote:
  >>> Any tweaks I should be looking at?
 >>
 >>
 >> I've seen it happen many times.  I use SubtitleEditor to correct the
 >>  timings.
 >>
 >> Thanks, Doug, I'll take a look at that. Just strange that they
 >> don't even appear for the first 10 mins or so. If I look at the srt
 >> file in mousepad, all the dialogue is there.
 >>
 >> I have a number of DVDs that claim to have closed captions, but
 >> whose display in MythTV is sporadic at best.  From what you're
 >> describing (all caption text seems to be intact in the .srt file),
 >> it sounds like the timecodes might be messed up in the original DVD
 >> MPEG source.  Do the timecodes in your .srt file look reasonable? 
 >> I.e. the duration of each subtitle, and the end time of one subtitle
 >> compared to the start time of the next subtitle.
 >>
 >> BTW, the closed captions are encoded as special packets in the MPEG
 >> file.  It is up to the player to render them onto the video image
 >> and/or insert them into the analog VBI output signal.  Only the
 >> former is possible when using component or HDMI output.  MythTV has
 >> never done the latter, though commercial DVD players probably do.
 >>
 >> Sorry...been a long while since I played with this.
 >> Anyhoo...was able to grab an srt file for the video. Watching in
 >> myth it was terribly often off, e.g. person left the room and then
 >> their dialogue would appear. I downloaded the Windows version of
 >> Subtitle Edit and when I open the files on my desktop the audio and
 >> subtitles were perfectly synced. I had done nothing. Why would they be off in Myth?
 >> Just curious if SE does some autofixing when it loads. Don't have
 >> access to the mythbox right now as the missus is asleep. Should I
 >> resave the .srt file and check the myth in the morning?
 >> Just checked. The captions are still out of sync, off by five
 >> seconds, sometimes ten or more despite the fact that they're perfect in Windoze.
 >> I'm wondering if this is a skipping issue I saw in some threads.
 >> The film opens with a few minutes of silent action so I always skip to where the dialogue starts.
 >> Further info:
 >> .mkv video
 >> external .srt file
 >> i.e. the file browser has title.mkv and title.srt
 >> Thanks
 >>
 >> Also...forgot, running latest .27 fixes
 >> Update...merged the SRT file into the mkv and suddenly the subtitles were in sync.
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> Great how simple reflection helps.
>  Please add it to the Wiki

> Which page in the wiki? And any idea why it failed outside the mkv and worked inside? 

No idea! It's not my area of knowledge but it would be great to let
others benefit. To not have to seek so long.
Go with logic through the wiki where you might have sought for it. Or
create a new page.

Tot mails,
  Hika                            mailto:hikavdh at gmail.com

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