[mythtv-users] How does XMLTV UK Atlas Grabber Compare To UK Radio Times Grabber / Handle Part Time Freeview Channels?

[Andre Newman]

On 25 Jul 2014, at 14:45, Paul Gardiner <lists at glidos.net> wrote:

> On 25/07/2014 10:05, Andre Newman wrote:
>> 
>> On 25 Jul 2014, at 09:17, Paul Gardiner <lists at glidos.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 25/07/2014 08:02, Mike Bibbings wrote:
>>>> On 25/07/14 06:28, Nigel Jewell wrote:
>>>>> On 23/07/2014 20:23, Mike Bibbings wrote:
>>>>>> I have been using the Atlas grabber since September last year with no
>>>>>> problems. It works fine for part time channels, +1 channels.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are the benefits to moving to it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nige.
>>>>> 
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>>>> Basically Atlas provides more channels and also includes Radio channel data.
>>>> 
>>>> The Radio Times (RT) grabber will no longer work after January 2015 see
>>>> 
>>>> http://metabroadcast.com/blog/atlas-deer-goes-out-in-the-wild
>>>> 
>>>> (near bottom of  the blog)
>>> 
>>> Can you use the atlas grabber as a simple swap-in replacement for the
>>> rt one, or are there more config changes required?
>> 
>> I switched about a year ago, there were a couple of channels I wanted that RT didn’t provide. The channel IDs are completely different, as I have a hand built .xmltv file this was a fair bit of tinkering.
>> 
>> eg:
>> channel=hd.filmfour.channel4.com
>> becomes:
>> channel=cbhn
>> 
>> If you are able to use the automatically built .xmltv file then there are translations from the old xmltv IDs to the new ones in the Altas grabber and maybe that is fairly “drop in”.
>> 
>> I don’t use it any more as I now only receive channels that have EIT and that works so much better for me.
> 
> Interesting. What advantages do you find with EIT?

It updates… more often than once a day, effectively it’s event driven rather than polled.

I find that often sports events overrun, occasionally extend on to another channel, if I’m recording that event my recording is complete as EIT has extended the programme time. Usually myth picks up the move to another channel as a new recording of the same name, I disable duplicate matching for sports things so myth records it.

It’s not often I record sports things, sometimes for work, more importantly when the programme I do want has been re-scheduled by half an hour or more due to the sports event EIT has updated and the recording is fine and complete.

xmltv is fine for the sorts of channels where this doesn’t ever happen and the better description data is nice, I used to run some channels EIT some XMLTV but the programme IDs don’t correspond so often repeats of a show will record if it was originally recorded on a channel where I have XMLTV and then re-appears years later on an channel where I have EIT. This is very common as Pay TV channels get first runs and public TV gets that series a few months or years later.

So now I’m entirely EIT things are simpler, I don’t have the PayTV any more and that was the only thing I didn’t get good EIT for. I’ll still get re-runs of things I saw on pay tv recorded for years to come but never mind, better than missing a new series. In the UK we have excellent EIT data thanks to Freesat and Freeview EPGs, ok the Atlas or Radio Times data is 2 weeks rather than one but I have Mythweb to compensate for that difference.

Andre

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