[mythtv-users] 'End late' ignored when recording LiveTV

[Michael T. Dean]

On 07/31/2012 11:35 AM, Mike Perkins wrote:
> On 31/07/12 16:01, Richard wrote:
>>
>> No.  They're the sort of programme that even if I'd looked at the 
>> guide, I still
>> probably wouldn't have chosen to record it but having caught the 
>> beginning and
>> found it interesting enough to hold my attention, I may well decide 
>> to watch the
>> rest of it.
>>
>> Re-reading what I wrote last time, it could sound like I'm looking 
>> for these
>> programmes.  I'm not.  The stuff I care about is recorded by rules 
>> but every so
>> often I'll put live TV on whilst I, for example, grab something to 
>> eat because
>> at that time there's usually something or other on that's light 
>> entertainment,
>> passes the time, and isn't full of adverts.  I probably have other 
>> things to do
>> after eating so I don't necessarily want to start watching something 
>> I've
>> recorded because I don't have the time to watch it all the way 
>> through (and if I
>> care enough about it to have created a rule for it, I'd rather watch 
>> it in one
>> go).  Occasionally then a programme will be on that I find I'm 
>> sufficiently
>> interested in it now that I've started, that I'd like to see the end 
>> of it.
>> That's when I'll want to hit 'R'.
>>
>> It's certainly the exception rather than the rule with me but I can 
>> absolutely
>> understand why one group of people would never want to inflict live 
>> TV on
>> themselves, whilst another group in different circumstances can't see 
>> what's
>> wrong with it.  The problem is getting the two groups to see it from 
>> the other's
>> point of view.
>>
> Another option, which we use, depends on where in the world you are 
> and whether the channels available to you offer repeats.
>
> For some of our channels, for example, there is also a "+ 1" channel. 
> That gives me up to an hour to log in to mythweb and schedule 
> something I've found that might be good.
>
> Alternatively, just make a schedule including the program you're 
> watching - or have just watched. You can do that after the fact, since 
> listings are held for the previous seven days. Having done that, you 
> can then monitor it for repeats on other channels. That way, when it 
> reappears, you'll have the whole thing on disk - including, perhaps, 
> the previous episodes you didn't catch because you didn't know the 
> program existed.

And, really, there's also the ability to create a new recording rule 
using the current program's information.  This would use the scheduler's 
smarts to determine whether to record the currently-airing "partial" 
episode or, if there's another showing anywhere in your current 
listings, it will record the later showing (basically making the 
decision Mike suggested for you rather than requiring you to look up 
whether there's a later showing).

I think you get to it with MENU|Schedule|Edit Recording Schedule, then 
just set the options you want (generally just choose a rule type--find 
one or record all or ...).  Unfortunately, there's not currently an 
action to allow binding a key to this function, but it may be possible 
to add one (Global|EDIT is used to start the frontend channel editor in 
Live TV and the recording editor (not recording rule editor) in 
pre-recorded playback, so we'd have to add something new).

Note, also, that this approach /will/ apply the start early/end late 
defaults.  The downside is that if it chooses to record the current 
showing, you will lose the already-watched-in-Live-TV parts.

> Of course, it's only disk space. If you subsequently decide you don't 
> like what you've recorded, there's always the 'delete' button. Nothing 
> of value would have been lost.

+1

Mike