[mythtv-users] Live TV playback frustration

[Warpme]

On 8/8/12 8:02 PM, Pieter De Wit wrote:
> <snip>
>> These kinds of errors often indicate a deadlock in mythbackend.  A
>> number of deadlocks have recently been found and fixed, with the fixes
>> in the 0.26 beta.  These issues have been around for a long time, and
>> they tend to be triggered by less predictable real-time events like
>> watching Live TV or EIT updates.
>>
>> You could try out 0.26-beta (being sure to have a DB backup first),
>> but that has its own set of risks.
>>
>> Jim
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> Hi Guys,
>
> I have often wondered how many of the dev's (and users) out there are 
> using LiveTV, for LiveTV. Since 0.25 I have seen an increase in the 
> number of issues on LiveTV. One (or more - the one I am thinking about 
> is the program switch over freezing bug - it's still in 0.26) got 
> reported and I added comments, but it does appear that the number of 
> people (and dev's ?) watching TV is declining ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pieter
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I can only speak for myself, but for me every new release since 0.24 is 
BIG improvement in LiveTV.
While I agree with PVR arguments, IMHO stable LiveTV is critical for of 
new users adoption (not small subset of new users who wants to convert 
STB+MediaPlayer to converged system). This is in-fact initial promise of 
MythTV: convergence.
Despite some dev's stated about rare LiveTV usage - looking on 0.25 & 
0.26 commits - a lot of effort was devoted to improve LiveTV.
For me 0.25's major improvement is Daniel's rec2 branch merger. 0.26's 
major improvement is EIT and stability improvements. I CLEARLY see those 
improvements over poor 0.24.
Currently I have 5 phy tuners/20 virtual doing avg. 30-50 rec per day.
With stable tuners (like e.g. ptg7301) last time statistics was about 1 
failed recording per 400-600 recordings.
I use LiveTV daily and 0.25 is already almost perfect for LiveTV (with 
some tuning like avoiding active EIT when LiveTV is used).
Recently I started using BE with all latest recording/EIT subsystem 
improvements and LiveTV seems to be perfect (few days of testing so 
knocking wood).
This is great for MythTV future, as flawless LiveTV is much more 
important for MythTV "buy-in" than many ppl are thinking/stating...

Regarding Your LiveTV issue I'll start with 2 photosynthesis:
-Your setup is "unfortunate" in context of existing mythtv bugs (and 
probably You can play little with this)
-Your underlying infrastructure (OS, HW/tuners/drivers) are less stable 
than should be

-br

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