[mythtv-users] FW: Channel listing on mythweb from PDA broken

Michael Watson michael at thewatsonfamily.id.au
Fri Sep 16 22:21:55 UTC 2011


On 15/09/2011 21:40, Anthony Rooney wrote:
>
> *From:*mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Watson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:32 PM
> *To:* Discussion about MythTV
> *Subject:* Re: [mythtv-users] FW: Channel listing on mythweb from PDA 
> broken
>
> On 14/09/2011 21:18, Anthony Rooney wrote:
>
> *From:*mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
> <mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org> 
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Watson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:40 AM
> *To:* Discussion about MythTV
> *Subject:* Re: [mythtv-users] FW: Channel listing on mythweb from PDA 
> broken
>
> On 13/09/2011 23:07, Anthony Rooney wrote:
>
> *From:*mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
> <mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org> 
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] *On Behalf Of *Anthony Rooney
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 September 2011 8:18 PM
> *To:* mythtv-users at mythtv.org <mailto:mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> *Subject:* [mythtv-users] Channel listing on mythweb from PDA broken
>
> Previously I used my Nokia E63 to connect to MythWeb and selected 
> “Listings” and then the channel to see what was scheduled on that 
> channel at that particular time and could scroll forward and back as 
> required and select recording etc. Following the upgrade from 0.23 to 
> 0.24 I can no longer get listings to work from my E63 and all works as 
> normal from any PC based web browser client connecting to MythWeb.
>
> Now when I select listings and then the channel I am taken to a screen 
> with the current date and the Jump button with no listings below. I 
> cannot figure out why this no longer works. I downloaded a different 
> browser to the E63 with no good effect. I tried the reset MythWeb 
> template default command from the PDA browser (?RESET_TMPL=true) which 
> also did not work.
>
> Everything work Ok using MythWeb from any computer or laptop based 
> browser but does not work anymore from the Nokia. >From the Nokia all 
> of the other MythWeb functions also work fine – Upcoming Recordings, 
> Recorded Programs and Backend status display all the required data but 
> not Listings.
>
> I tried creating a second authorised user based on some feedback I 
> found on Google that you need a 2^nd user for PDA however ran into 
> trouble with the HTPASSWD command not allowing me to add a second 
> user. I then used the –C option which created an new htpasswd file 
> which has stopped Apache2 from starting the web service I presume 
> because it know it has a different hash. It seems I have swallowed the 
> spider to catch the fly trying to fix this in the absence of any 
> advise or assistance.
>
> I cannot be the only one to have had listing break on PDA devices yet 
> not help.
>
> This is a very useful feature which people will want to use so how do 
> you get assistance or advice when it stops working?
>
> Anthony
>
> I cannot believe I am the only one using a PDA device to access 
> MythWeb in the manner described so how come I get absolutely no 
> assistance or suggestions to help me get round such a debilitating 
> problem using this feature? MythWeb is as useful as an ashtray on a 
> motorbike or tits on a bull if you cannot use mobile devices to load 
> an interface that is usable. This stopped working without reason 
> following an “upgrade” from 0.23 to 0.24 so how do I recover this 
> functionality??
>
> This is supposed to be a USER forum so how do users get assistance?
>
>
>
>
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> For what its worth,
>
> I tested the same on my Nokia E71, and get the same result as you.
> Relevent line from the Apache access.log file is:
>
> "GET /mythweb/tv/channel/1207/20110914 HTTP/1.1" 200 1128 *MailScanner 
> has detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.0.11.10" claiming to 
> be* "http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/list" 
> <http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/list> "Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.2; U; 
> Series60/3.1 NokiaE71-1/510.21.009; Profile/MIDP-2.0 
> Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413"
>
> Pasting *MailScanner warning: numerical links are often malicious:* 
> http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/channel/1207/20110914 into a web browser 
> on my desktop gives the listing for that channel as expected. No 
> errors are logged in the apache error.log
>
> MythTV Version : v0.24.1-84-g8f865a6
> MythTV Branch : fixes/0.24
>
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
> Thanks for the feedback Michael, you are the only one that responded 
> to this question in over 3 weeks. I guess there are not many people 
> using their mobile devices to access MythTv listings, which is very 
> surprising. Do you think this is a bug and there is no work-a-round?
>
> I have an image of my 0.23 installation which I will restore as I lost 
> so much with the “upgrade” to 0.24. Perhaps my KWorld dual tuner DVB-T 
> 160 will start working again in the old environment. This was another 
> question I raised on the forum without a single suggestion to fix so I 
> pulled out the card in put it in a Windows machine where it works OK. 
> I actually thought the card had failed not expecting a upgrade to 0.24 
> to kill it so completely.
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
>
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> Yes, frustrating when nobody replies, yet many people can generate a 
> lot of crud on a seemingly simple topic such as whether to run GUI on 
> a standalone BE.
>
> With the Nokia, I am assuming its a bug, caused by what I am unsure. I 
> think because its not an iPhone or an Android, nobody seems to care 
> anymore that there are other devices out there (although, as I dont 
> own either of these phones, have not tested on them)
>
> Not had any tuner related issues with 0.24, until recently that is, 
> but I think that is more a kernel / startup timing issue. My AverMedia 
> Super 007, was unable to tune channels at random. Adding a 20 sec 
> delay to mythtv-backend startup script fixed that issue. (Although 
> MythTV developers strongly deny that it could be caused by MythTV 
> itself). This problem only started about two weeks ago, possibly after 
> a kernel upgrade.
>
> Although, I have no knowledge of your KWorld Tuner, what issues where 
> you having with it?
> What version of 0.24 are you running?
>
> Michael
>
> I agree that although this forum is supposed to be about user issues 
> it seem to be dominated by highly technical people who discuss in 
> depth fringe marginal engineering variables and when simple user 
> issues are raised they are simply ignored. There seems an underlying 
> contempt to the “nob” user. There also seems to be a very adverse 
> response to anyone reporting aspect of the Myth interface that is 
> confusing to new users. You would think that such feedback is very 
> valuable however is often treated with extreme hostility with shoot 
> the messenger responses..
>
> I though being able to use my Nokia E63 to schedule recording was 
> really cool and cannot believe that is could completely break with a 
> “upgrade”. Worse is the lack of support and help to troubleshoot 
> suggesting a degree of denial in some quarters.
>
> Concerning the Kworld 160 it was working fine for 11 months and when I 
> upgraded to 0.24 I got a problem when it could not lock a channel even 
> though the signal was strong. It would work 15% of the time but fail 
> for the rest. The previous kernel did not support the Kworld so I had 
> to download and install the firmware AF9015 however this was not 
> changed by the MythTv upgrade.
>
> I posted several messages providing details and got zippo support and 
> in the end I ripped out the card thinking I had a hardware fault and 
> was stunned to see it work fine in window. How can an upgrade wipe you 
> out like this and get zippo from the support forum.
>
>
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Regarding your KWorld Tuner. I found this link regarding Tuning problems 
and this card. Not sure if its your issue, and its over 12 months old, 
but may be relevent
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1458234&page=6

Or this link, that indicates that updating your kernel to 2.6.37-12 (or 
better) might solve the problem.

Regards
Michael






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