[mythtv-users] migrating from analog cable to digital cable (Cogeco), recheduling on new tuners and removing existing tuner

[Mike McMullin]

On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 11:16 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> On 02/23/2011 01:35 AM, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 23:20 -0500, Craig Treleaven wrote:
> >> At 8:58 PM -0500 2/20/11, Mike McMullin wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 09:54 -0500, Craig Treleaven wrote:
> >>>> Not true here in Oakville.  There are about 30+ unencrypted channels available on Cogeco that my HDhomerun happily records. YMMV.
> >>>>
> >>>   That's good to hear, btw is Cogeco also sending down the analog signal
> >>> as well, three tuners are better than two?  ;)
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >
> >    Well now I've got signal, I just need to set the input connections, is
> > it better to scan for channels, or fetch channels from a listing source?
> 
> For analog, if you still have an analog tuner, set up your lineup at 
> Schedules Direct, and let the box fetch from there. Analog scanning has 
> been broken for some time and will not be fixed (no reason to do so).

  Bummer on that, but at least the tuner is working.

> > When I get the the channel scan page, I see the input as tuner one on
> > the HDHR, desired services is TV (radio is or is not available?) Scan
> > type is full scan, Frequency Table is Broadcast, Modulation is
> > Terrestrial (8-VSB), Scanning range is ATSC Channel2 and ATSC Channel69.
> 
> Since you are feeding the HDHR from the Cogeco cable (directly I presume 
> for at least one HDHR input). then the settings are:
> 
> Full Scan, Cable, QAM-256 (to start; may be QAM-64), scan from 2 to 
> whatever.. I do not remember how the scanner treats digital cable 
> channels. The 'channel' numbers which Cogeco assigns are arbitrary: each 
> digital stream (10-2, 10-3, 10-4 etc) is given an integer number. You 
> may find unencrypted QAM channels with numbers into the 200 to 300 
> range. You will also find lots of encrypted channels!

  Ok got the first tuner to scan, dropped the encrypted channels, the
scan reported 59 off airchannels, which it suggested to delete all,
done; 21 new non-conflicting SCTE channels, which it suggested to insert
all, done; 28 new non-conflicting MPEG Channels, whoic it suggested to
insert all, done.


> After dropping the encrypted channels, the best method is to use the 
> 'Preview Lineup' screen at Schedules Direct (using Cogeco Cable Digital 
> for this), and match up the streams your scan shows as being unencrypted.
> 
> IIRC there may be script on the wiki, which you can run which will 
> record from each tunable channel, and determine if the stream if 
> encrypted. There are also scripts and instructions at the v4l website.

  Schedules Direct offers lineups for Cogeco Digital, is it not just
possible to add the digital feeds for mythfilldatabase, after creating a
separate input for the digital tuner(s) and have that do the dirty work?

> It's been a while since I have even *thought* about finding unencrypted 
> QAM channels... it will be 4 years in June since Rogers encrypted 
> everything digital.
> 
> >    I have no idea what Cable HIGH, Cable HRC HIGH, Cable IRC High, Cable,
> > Cable HRC and Cable IRC, mean and or due?  Any points?
> 
> Different channel <> frequency matchups, mainly differentiated by 
> offsets from the main channel-every-6MgHz format.

  Noted thanks, btw after addinf the channels and running a fill
database (which hung/crashed/got axed by me for taking too damn long),
I've noticed that some of the digital channels have lineup info, by the
logs indicate that mythfilldatabase is only getting info for one input
and not both.