[mythtv-users] record live/first showing of sports?

[Steven Adeff]

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Michael T. Dean
<mtdean at thirdcontact.com> wrote:
> On 06/07/2011 11:05 AM, Steven Adeff wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:30 AM, David Engel wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 09:25:38PM -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>>>> On 06/06/2011 09:17 PM, Steven Adeff wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone figured out a way to get Myth to record the live showing of
>>>>> a sports event instead of a later repeat?
>>>> See the "First showing of each episode" example clause in the
>>>> mythfrontend custom recording rule editor.
>>> You can also do that for normal recording rules by setting the
>>> location to look for duplicates to "Record new episode first
>>> showings".
>>>
>>> Yes, it's a major kluge the new episodes and first showing options
>>> were shoehorned in that way.  It's in the process of being fixed.
>> sadly this doesn't work, I have all my sports set to that and Myth
>> still insists on recording a repeat showing instead of the original
>> airing.
>>
>> this setting works great for tv series were reruns are aired on the
>> same or other channels. But, even for those, if a new episode is being
>> repeat later that night or the next day it will sometimes schedule the
>> secondary airing as well.
>>
>> What I'm looking for is a way to say, "yes, I know this will re-air
>> two hours later and that would allow you to record more scheduled
>> shows, but I insist that this show record the original, and first,
>> airing even if it means other shows will not be recorded.". A "Sports"
>> mode option so to speak.
>
> I'm not sure why this would be.  The first-showing SQL looks like it
> should only mark one airing with a given programid as a first showing.
>
> If you truly want the /first/, first episode, I think you can disable
> the setting:
>
> Reschedule higher priorities
> Move higher priority programs to other cards and showings when resolving
> conflicts. This can be used to record lower priority programs that would
> otherwise not be recorded, but risks missing a higher priority program
> if the schedule changes.
>
> and, assuming you're not using (evil :) channel and input priorities,
> MythTV will record the first, first showing.  However, this will  affect
> all rules.
>
>> I don't see "Record new episode first showings" as a recording option.
>> I'm running 0.24-fixes, perhaps this was added in trunk?
>
> No.  I'm guessing you're using MythWeb instead of mythfrontend to create
> the rule.  MythWeb broke it out as a "Filter" rather than as part of the
> "Check for duplicates in" setting.
>
>> Priority level also has no bearing on the logic that decides.
>
> Also because of your having "Reschedule higher priorities" enabled (it
> is enabled by default, too).
>
> Can't think of a better way, off the top of my head, without doing
> something difficult like a complex join in a custom rule (complex
> enough, I'm not even sure how to do it) to allow you to see when other
> showings of that title occur on the same day.  I'm still wondering why
> you have multiple showings with the same programid marked as first
> episodes, though.  (Can't see any way that could happen unless your
> mythfilldatabase run isn't completing properly and showing the line,
> "Marking episode first showings," but maybe David has some ideas...)

yes, I am using MythWeb, which apparently lists it differently for the
same setting? If not, then perhaps a ticket should be opened to ensure
at some point the MythWeb options mimic those in the frontend? I
currently find it much easier to set recording schedules with MythWeb,
but this could make it no better.

my concern with disabling "Reschedule higher priorities" is that for
tv series I like the behavior of recording the slightly later showing
of a new episode if that means it can record other series that don't
have a slightly later airing of the new episode. right now this works
perfectly. It's just sports that I think could use an override for
this.

-- 
Steve
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