[mythtv-users] Fedora 15 gnome activities auto start issue

[Raymond Wagner]

On 8/17/2011 13:49, Saul A. Peebsen wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 17:59:59 +0100
> Mike Perkins<mikep at randomtraveller.org.uk>  wrote:
>
>> On 17/08/11 16:21, Rodney Morris wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Billy Macdonald
>>> <toastyfries at hotmail.com>   wrote:
>>>> Hey Myth Users.
>>>>      So I decided to upgrade to Fedora 15 and the latest 24.1
>>>> fixes.   I see to have almost everything working and there have
>>>> been some learning curves with the new Gnome 3 shell and systemd
>>>> and whatnot.  But my last hurdle is when it auto logs in, the
>>>> activities panel or whatever it's called is active.   I end up
>>>> with mythfrontend running in a little window.  Once I click on it
>>>> it goes full screen, but the dedicated frontends won't have a
>>>> mouse to click on the window.   Anyone know how to configure gnome
>>>> so that the activities thing isn't selected at login? Thanks,
>>>> Will
>>> Any particular reason you are using Gnome 3 shell?  Have you
>>> considered using something lighter than gnome 3 shell, like xfce or
>>> lxde?  Both are in the fedora repositories.  I currently use lxde
>>> for the autologin user on my fedora based combined fe/be.  LXDE
>>> works great for the task.
>>>
>> Yep. If this is a dedicated front end, which I'm guessing it is if
>> you won't have a mouse, you shouldn't bother with Gnome at all. It's
>> just using resources myth can make better use of.
>
> In fact, you do not need a WM or DE for a dedicated frontend at all.
> I'm running frontend directly on X and it works just fine. I just made
> it to autologin and autostart X.

In fact it does not work fine.  There are plenty of cases in which it is 
broken, you just don't seem to use them.  Without a window manager, you 
cannot control focus for different windows, and not all of MythTV exists 
in a single window.  For things like MythBrowser, it's not in our 
capability to make everything in a single window.  So when window 
managers like fluxbox or ratpoison or evilwm exist, are unobtrusive, and 
consumer upwards of hundreds of kilobytes of memory, why not use one?