[mythtv-users] Getting a correct lineup for DishNetwork
Michael T. Dean
mtdean at thirdcontact.com
Fri May 14 15:24:09 UTC 2010
On 05/14/2010 12:52 AM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
> I am not getting a complete lineup of all the channels that I should
> be. I have a subscription to SchedulesDirect and it appears that I
> have to subscribe to two separate lineups, one for DishNetwork
> Satellite and the other for Local Broadcast Listings. (Correct me if I
> am wrong on this)
I'm guessing you just need to select the right provider. One of the
providers should be Dish Network including locals. You've selected the
wrong one.
> The lineup report for DishNetwork shows channel numbers starting at
> channel 72 and the lineup report for my Local Broadcast Listings start
> with channel 2 and end with channel 58. I am only getting the lineup
> for DishNetwork Satellite (starting at channel 72) and just channel 2
> though it is mislabeled and does NOT represent my local channel 2
> station.
That would be fixed by selecting the proper provider at Schedules
Direct. Note, also, that Dish has "real" channel numbers for the locals
(like 8543 or whatever) /and/, when you've selected the Dish + locals,
you'll get "aliases" at the low channel numbers. So you can choose to
use either the low-numbered ones or the high-numbered ones.
> Mythtvsetup is awfully poorly documented so I probably am not doing
> something right to set it up, so as to retrieve both of these lineups
> correctly. In fact I am only retrieving the lineup for the DishNetwork
> Satellite and none of the channels from the Local Broadcast Listings
> is showing up. I think I setup the Video Source configuration dialog
> properly, choosing North America (SchedulesDirect.org)(Internal) for
> my Listings grabber and entered my user ID and Password for
> SchedulesDirect. And I clicked on Retrieve Lineups which immediate
> pops up a dialog box saying it is Fetching lineups from Schedules
> Direct... and instantly shows I am 50% complete! After a few minutes
> the dialog box simply disappears giving no hint as to whether it was
> successful or not.
Ken is correct. You can only have one lineup per video source.
> The info in the Data Direct Lineup: changes to show "Local Broadcast
> Listings-LocalBroadcast-98671-PC:98671" and if I navigate to it, and
> click on the right arrow it also shows "DISH
> Network-Satellite-98671-ECHOST. So to my untrained eyes it appears as
> if both of my lineups were retrieved ok... I got no idea whether
> leaving this set, to one or the other lineups, affects anything. But I
> have noted that this setting is not persistent (even if I do not exit
> Mythtvsetup!) and the next time I open the Video Source Setup dialog
> it will have reverted back to simply ECHOST, whatever that means....
That's a display-only bug. It actually works properly, so just have faith.
http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6637 (note the "it is saved in the
database correctly" part)
> I have no clue as to what the checkbox for "Perform EIT Scan" does so
> I leave it unchecked as I found it. Nor do I have any idea what the
> Channel frequency table: setting does, so leave it set to default.
Should be unchecked since you're using a /much/ better-quality listings
provider--Schedules Direct.
> (BTW navigation in the Video source setup dialog is funky. When I
> reach the Channel frequency table it seems to end the ability to
> advance the cursor from there and not allow the cursor to advance to
> any other buttons or fields unless you reverse the direction you came
> from. Normally one would expect the cursor to simply advance through
> all the buttons and fields then wrap around and start over...)
Again, see http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6637#comment:1
> In the Connect source to input dialog I set up my Video source to
> DishNetwork which I had define. I do have a script I am using for the
> External channel change command which is working. I also have to
> preset my Hauppauge 350 tuner to channel 62 (which is the channel the
> DishNetwork settop box outputs the NTSC signal on, and I have no
> freaking understanding why they did not choose channel 3 or 4 like
> every VCR and DVD and settop boxes have done for years now!!!) In my
> context I do not know or comprehend what the buttons "Scan for
> channels" or "Fetch channels from listings source" would do or whether
> I should use them. "Scan for channels" seems outright weird and IMHO I
> should think it should be inactivated, since I am presetting my tuner
> to a fixed channel. I did click on the "Fetch channels from listings
> source" and it seems happy to do so, though it again gives no feedback
> on whether it was successful or not.
>
> There is one other setting in this dialog that puzzles me, Starting
> channel: In my mind I am guessing that this should be channel 2 but
> every time I set it, then come back to the dialog later I find it set
> to some weird random number. There is a comment stating this is the
> "Starting LiveTV channel. This is updated on every successful channel
> change." So 'OK....' I am lost and confused! What is the purpose of
> this field? Why should I set it if it is going to be automatically set
> to some other value?
It will likely be removed for exactly that reason.
> So my first hiccup to solve is how do I get a complete channel lineup
> configured in MythTV? My second hiccup concerns the fact that when I
> looked at the lineup I got for DISH Network-Satellite, I noted upon
> close examination that it does not correspond 100% with the actual
> channels I receive through my settop box.
Both of those will involve redoing your lineup at Schedules Direct--you
need to delete the Dish one and redo it with the right provider (Dish +
locals).
> There are a few extra channels and a few missing ones, but it appears
> to be about 90% correct. I asked support at DishNetwork about the
> difference, they pointed me to a website at
> http://tvlistings.zap2it.com where their internet listings are derived
> from. I noticed also that SchedulesDirect has references to Zap2It as
> well and indeed the listing on the Zap2it site is only about 90%
> correct also. So it appears that the problem resides between
> DishNetwork and Zap2It. Has anyone else noticed this discrepancy and
> figured out a way to solve it?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions offered... I know I am
> getting close to having this working, hopefully only a few more
> hiccups and I will be there.. ;-)
Fix the lineup and the MythTV stuff will follow suit.
Mike
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