[mythtv-users] mythtv-users Digest, Vol 93, Issue 100

Gary gwgrover at windstream.net
Thu Dec 23 22:51:06 UTC 2010



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>Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re: AirPlay Support (jedi)
>   2. Re: Looking for a New remote (Jacob Mansfield)
>   3. Re: Looking for a New remote (Mike)
>   4. Re: HD-PVR Priming Script? (Marc Tousignant)
>   5. Re: Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs (Brian Fischer)
>   6. Re: Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs
>      (James Courtier-Dutton)
>   7. Re: Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs (Brian J. Murrell)
>   8. Remote admin (was HVR-2250 Analog trials) (faginbagin)
>   9. Re: Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs (Brian Wood)
>  10. Re: HD-PVR Priming Script? (Dan Wilga)
>  11. Re: Need Help: HD-PVR IRBlaster (Jarod Wilson) (Jarod Wilson)
>  12. wiki scripts (was Re: Orphan recordings cleaned up?)
>      (Michael T. Dean)
>  13. Re: Fedora vs. CentOS - Thoughts (Jarod Wilson)
>  14. Re: Remote admin (was HVR-2250 Analog trials) (Doug Lytle)
>  15. Re: Remote admin (was HVR-2250 Analog trials) (Jay Ashworth)
>  16. Re: Myth user jobs and com flaging stuck for days please help
>      (Anthony Giggins)
>  17. Re: Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs (Dave Richardson)
>  18. (solved) jumpy mouse in mythgame caused by unclutter
>      (John-Marc Chandonia)
>  19. Re: Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs (Nicolas Will)
>  20. Re: Fedora vs. CentOS - Thoughts (Gary Buhrmaster)
>  21. Re: Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs (Greg Oliver)
>  22. Re: Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs (Greg Oliver)
>  23. Re: [UK] BBC HD and BBC ONE HD - recording length	incorrect
>      (Taylor Ralph)
>  24. Re: Fedora vs. CentOS - Thoughts (Greg Oliver)
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 12:36:03 -0600
>From: jedi <jedi at mishnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] AirPlay Support
>To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>Message-ID: <20101223183603.GA12915 at mishnet.org>
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>On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:38:41PM -0500, Donald J. Organ IV wrote:
>> Is there anyone doing work to allow playing video from iPhone/iPad via AirPlay to Myth?? 
>
>...it seems like all you really need is a 3rd party app and a menu entry
>to activate it. It would be sort of like starting a VNC server or X server
>in order to connect to another machine on the desktop.
>
>   Explicit MythTV support is probably not necessary.
>
>[deletia]
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:52:05 +0000
>From: Jacob Mansfield <cyberjacob at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for a New remote
>To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>Message-ID:
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>well my Bluetooth PS3 remote just arrived, looks good despite the branding
>and shape buttons. just gotta wait for the receiver now!
>Jacob Mansfield
>Programmer
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:52:57 -0800
>From: Mike <altmcf at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for a New remote
>To: Michael Drons <mdrons at yahoo.com>,	Discussion about MythTV
>	<mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
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>On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Michael Drons <mdrons at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I am looking for a new remote for a new mythfrontend.  The remote must have a
>> very high wife acceptance.  I currently have a MCE and gyration remote, and they
>> work, but they each have there issues.
>>
>>
>> I have never had good luck with remotes.  I am hoping someone can give me a good
>> recommendation.
>>
>> I am in the US if it matters.
>>
>> Thanks, Mike
>>
>>
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>I have been using a wireless keyboard with a Sony remote trained to
>the wireless keyboard presses.  I have used this setup for many years
>now and it works great.  Plus new releases of mythtv work without any
>tweaking, I plug the keyboard receiver into the new box and the
>remotes are already trained.  Simple to remap keys and train the
>remote as needed.
>
>-Mike
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:07:25 -0500
>From: "Marc Tousignant" <myrdhn at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] HD-PVR Priming Script?
>To: "'Discussion about MythTV'" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org
>[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Martin Lynch
>Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 12:28 PM
>To: mythtv-users at mythtv.org
>Subject: [mythtv-users] HD-PVR Priming Script?
>
>Aside from my ongoing RBlaster woes, my new HD-PVR routinely (read: at 
>least twice a day during heavy use) fails. By this I mean that stopping 
>watching live TV in myth doesn't stop the HD-PVR - the blue light on top 
>remains on, and myth can no longer use that input thereafter. Likewise, 
>live TV fails a couple of times a day with an error message along the 
>lines of "video failed - too many buffer overruns". The HD-PVR stays 
>lit. If I manually turn the HD-PVR off and then on, myth often doesn't 
>recognize it - the backend gives an error that there are no inputs 
>attached. As near as I can figure out, my entire system requires a 
>reboot at this point in order for the HD-PVR to work (ie I've tried 
>removing the capture card in mythtv-setup and replacing it, which does 
>not work, etc.).
>
>What I'm wondering is: would it be possible to write a script which 
>tests the HD-PVR and, on a bad result, power cycles it or, if necessary, 
>restarts the machine after a suitable warning and delay? Something like: 
>a minute prior to a scheduled recording, attempt a 2 second recording 
>and then check the file size. If >0, OK else power cycle the unit. I 
>have no idea how to actually do this; nor do I know whether it is 
>possible to trigger a power cycle or reset of the HD-PVR via 
>instructions over the USB cable. I just got to thinking about this 
>because I've used firewire for four years with excellent results, and if 
>I recall, the firewire capture code includes a priming script that makes 
>sure a solid connection is established, and I thought something similar 
>might be possible with the HD-PVR.
>
>Man, the HD-PVR makes me yearn, desperately, for the days of my firewire 
>STB...
>
>-- 
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Martin
>
>_______________________________________________
>
>I've not seen or heard of this yet. I have an HDPVR as well and I
>occasionally have to restart it, maybe once a month, when it gets out of
>sync with myth and the cablebox. When this happens it trys to record/watch
>live and fails to get a signal fast enough for myth and the backend fails
>the tuner. At this point I turn off and on the hdpvr and have to restart the
>backend on the machine it is connected to.
>A script would be a nice idea to fix certain things. Wish there was some way
>we could trigger a reboot of the hdpvr then I could setup said script to
>reboot and restart the backend for me.
>
>MarcT
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:15:49 -0500
>From: Brian Fischer <brianafischer at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs
>To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>Message-ID:
>	<AANLkTikH7gy05rOWjAnzDFNocqOf7AnZ3hbb6jMy8Mqm at mail.gmail.com>
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>On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Brian Wood <beww at beww.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have a CrystalHD installed in my Revo, not doing anything now, but
>> hoping to be ready for the future.
>>
>> Any Flash content I play through my PlayOn server, which transcodes to
>> something that VDPAU can handle. Of course that's just moving the CPU
>> requirement to a different machine, but that one's in the garage where a
>> noisy beast is acceptable.
>
>I had the same idea for a "work-around" for playing flash on my Myth
>box (Revo 1600).  However, the end result was either extremely low
>quality or playback that stutters.  After checking CPU usage, my
>single core Atom was pegged.  Local videos were playing fine using
>VDPAU.  How do you playback content from PlayOn and how do you force a
>VDPAU compatible stream?  Are you sure the CrystalHD was not decoding
>your PlayOn content?
>
>-Brian
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 19:17:02 +0000
>From: James Courtier-Dutton <james.dutton at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs
>To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>Message-ID:
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>On 23 December 2010 05:18, Dave Richardson <mythtv at derdev.com> wrote:
>> I forget if it's been Robert's axe to grind about the IONs being
>> underpowered, but... I've just about had it with my IONs.  (ZOTAC C-U,
>> B-somethings)
>>
>> I have one specific FE that I really want to have perform well and this ION
>> mITX stuff amounts to half-a-solution and lot of wasted time tuning. Yeah,
>> Myth's a hobby, but if the point of the hobby is to actually WATCH something
>> instead of tinkering and tuning, then I want to think about some gear that
>> isn't so marginal.
>>
>> Main complaint: truly high quality vdpau playback isn't consistently
>> possible and seems to require quite a bit of tuning and fiddling to sustain.
>>  For me, this makes a credible case against Comcast HD DVR difficult to
>> support.
>>
>> What specs would put forth a quiet-as-possible FE that had some real balls,
>> was ideally fanless/quiet, and didn't need a lot of tuning to kick ass?
>>
>> Basically, spec something that doesn't breathe hard when I watch the damned
>> nightly news (yes, you may laugh that I watch the news - it's kind of a
>> metaphor anyways)
>>
>> Anyone else feel this pain?  Is it just as simple as getting into the GT 2xx
>> chips/cards?
>>
>
>vdpau works fine here with my zotac zbox id-11
>Central CPU sits a 10% while playing ITV1 HD.  (in the UK)
>
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:20:17 -0500
>From: "Brian J. Murrell" <brian at interlinx.bc.ca>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs
>To: mythtv-users at mythtv.org
>Message-ID: <1293132017.22976.68.camel at pc>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 19:17 +0000, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: 
>> 
>> vdpau works fine here with my zotac zbox id-11
>> Central CPU sits a 10% while playing ITV1 HD.  (in the UK)
>
>From what I am understanding (Flash content aside because we all know
>and understand that Flash on IONs is a non-starter) CPU load is
>orthogonal to the complaints being made in this thread since all of the
>rendering that people (the sports nuts complaining about the high motion
>scenes) are complaining about is done in the GPU.
>
>The complaints seem to be with VDPAU's rendering on certain content
>(hi-motion sports).
>
>b.
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>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:28:31 -0500
>From: faginbagin <mythtv at hbuus.com>
>Subject: [mythtv-users] Remote admin (was HVR-2250 Analog trials)
>To: mythtv-users at mythtv.org
>Message-ID: <4D13A2DF.8090906 at hbuus.com>
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>Hi Doug,
>
>Regarding your parents' Christmas present, I thought it might be useful 
>to share some tips on remotely administering a Myth system for family & 
>friends. Perhaps you've got this covered, but just in case:
>
>1) get your parents a domain name.
>
>On your parent's computer and/or router:
>2) set up some form of dynamic dns on either their router or myth box 
>(e.g. ddclient).
>3) set up ssh with a non standard port.
>4) set up apache with a non standard port and make sure mythweb is 
>password protected.
>5) configure their router to pass through the non standard ports to the 
>myth box.
>6) set up x11vnc with a password on their myth box.
>
>On your computer:
>1) make sure you can connect via ssh to their myth box with an ssh 
>tunnel configured on port 5900.
>2) make sure you can connect a vnc viewer over the ssh tunnel to their 
>myth box's X display using localhost:5900.
>
>Don't shoot me, but I use winxp on a thinkpad laptop with putty and 
>tightvnc for the above. I have found that doing the same with a ubuntu 
>desktop distro is a lot slower and less reliable. Maybe it's the 
>wireless driver or the available vnc clients for linux or the video 
>driver support for my 6 year old thinkpad.
>
>Miscellany:
>Get them an external hard drive and plan to make backups of their 
>recordings and database (at a minimum) when you visit. Once they start 
>using myth, they won't be happy if they lose their recordings due to a 
>hard drive going bad.
>
>HTH,
>Helen
>
>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 12:58:37 -0700
>From: Brian Wood <beww at beww.org>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Build a robust FE - irritated with IONs
>To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>Message-ID: <201012231258.37886.beww at beww.org>
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>On Thursday, December 23, 2010 12:15:49 pm Brian Fischer wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Brian Wood <beww at beww.org> wrote:
>> > I have a CrystalHD installed in my Revo, not doing anything now,
>> > but hoping to be ready for the future.
>> > 
>> > Any Flash content I play through my PlayOn server, which transcodes
>> > to something that VDPAU can handle. Of course that's just moving
>> > the CPU requirement to a different machine, but that one's in the
>> > garage where a noisy beast is acceptable.
>> 
>> I had the same idea for a "work-around" for playing flash on my Myth
>> box (Revo 1600).  However, the end result was either extremely low
>> quality or playback that stutters.  After checking CPU usage, my
>> single core Atom was pegged.  Local videos were playing fine using
>> VDPAU.  How do you playback content from PlayOn and how do you force
>> a VDPAU compatible stream?
>
>Haven't yet got around to settings up to play PlayOn's output with a 
>Myth frontend. I can think of a few different ways to do it, just waiting 
>for the available time to implement some of them and test.
>
>I play back PlayOn content with a Myka device. PLayOn seems to default 
>to putting out an mpeg2 stream when it does not recognize the playback 
>device. I originally tried it with an Xbox-360, which worked fine, then 
>moved to the Myka, which is a Sigma-based playback that handles the 
>MPEG2 just fine, with far less power than the 360.
>
>PlayOn is running on a fairly fast dual core machine, and my internet 
>bandwidth is high, I get all greens when everything's set to "auto". The 
>quality is quite good, not perfect but very watchable.
>
>PlayOn allows access to all my media via the built-in local media 
>function (not the script, which was an earlier way to do it).
>
>Now, the Myka can find any NFS or Samba share anywhere on my network, so 
>I don't need PlayOn for local content, just things like Netflix, Hulu, 
>PBS, Discovery, History and the like.
>
>> Are you sure the CrystalHD was not
>> decoding your PlayOn content?
>
>The Revo is just for experimenting at the moment, I installed the B'com 
>module to try it out, haven't got around to playing with it much so far, 
>but it seemed like it would be more useful than a WiFi module.
>
>
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:58:57 -0500
>From: Dan Wilga <mythtv-users2 at dwilga-linux1.amherst.edu>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] HD-PVR Priming Script?
>To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>Message-ID: <4D13AA01.1020607 at dwilga-linux1.amherst.edu>
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>I don't know if it's definitely the case with the HD-PVR, but it's 
>possible that the reason Myth fails to recognize the device after it is 
>reset is that it is treated like a second instance. This would create a 
>new /dev/videoX device. If this is the case, then you might be able to 
>work around the problem with a udev rule that creates a symlink with a 
>constant name to whatever device gets created. You would then point Myth 
>to the symlink instead of the videoX device.
>
>You could confirm this using `ls /dev/video*` before and after resetting 
>the HD-PVR.
>
>It might also help if you "rmmod" the driver after unplugging the HD-PVR.
>
>-- 
>Dan Wilga                                                        "Ook."
>
>
>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:07:03 -0500
>From: Jarod Wilson <jarod at wilsonet.com>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need Help: HD-PVR IRBlaster (Jarod Wilson)
>To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>Message-ID: <9D0D8295-629B-4B25-8BD4-8C6BE2C4177A at wilsonet.com>
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>On Dec 23, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Martin Lynch wrote:
>
>> 
>>> $ sudo irsend SEND_ONCE hauppauge_pvr CH+
>>> >  irsend: command failed: SEND_ONCE hauppauge_pvr CH+
>>> >  irsend: transmission failed
>>> >  >  Syslog shows:
>>> >  >  accepted new client on /var/run/lirc/lircd
>>> >  write failed
>>> >  Protocol error
>>> >  error processing command: SEND_ONCE hauppauge_pvr CH+
>>> >  transmission failed
>>> >  >  We seem to be heading in the right direction, because now it seems my system recognizes there's a blaster and acknowledges that it has transmitting capability.
>>> However, in the above there, you're trying to transmit codes that aren't
>>> supported by the hdpvr. Transmit support for the hdpvr is kind of a hack.
>>> (For all zilog devices, actually). There's an IR code table loaded into
>>> the driver, and you actually pass an index from lirc to the device, which
>>> then figures out the IR signal to send. You're trying to transmit raw IR
>>> data from the hauppauge_pvr config, which won't work with this hardware.
>>> You need to try transmitting something from the 'blaster' section of the
>>> lircd.conf for zilog.
>> Interesting. Problem is that if I include the "blaster" section (or, it seems, any part of it), irsend stops recognizing anything.
>> 
>> For example, if I remove the entire section for "blaster":
>> 
>> $ irsend LIST "" ""
>> irsend: Hauppauge
>> irsend: hauppauge_pvr
>> irsend: Hauppauge_350
>> irsend: Hauppauge_WinTV_Nexus-S
>> irsend: Hauppauge
>> 
>> If I include the blaster section in its entirety:
>> 
>> $ irsend LIST "" ""
>> (nothing)
>> 
>> If I replace the hauppauge_pvr codes with blaster codes, replacing "begin codes" with "begin raw_codes" and continuing until "end raw_codes":
>> 
>> $ irsend LIST "" ""
>> (nothing)
>> 
>> If I replace the hauppauge_pvr codes with blaster codes, leaving the "begin codes" and "end codes":
>> 
>> $ irsend LIST "" ""
>> (nothing)
>> 
>> If I download the lircd.conf from http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/lmilk/lircd.conf and try that, unaltered:
>> 
>> $ irsend LIST "" ""
>> (nothing)
>> 
>> Why should this be? How can I send a blaster code?
>
>No clue, it works for me... (Or at least, did last I tried it). I was thinking
>perhaps an error in your config somewhere, but if you're using the downloaded
>config w/o any changes, that doesn't seem like a possibility. I'll be poking
>at this shortly (later today, I hope), with an HVR-1950, will see what I can
>see then...
>
>
>-- 
>Jarod Wilson
>jarod at wilsonet.com
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 12
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:18:55 -0500
>From: "Michael T. Dean" <mtdean at thirdcontact.com>
>Subject: [mythtv-users] wiki scripts (was Re: Orphan recordings
>	cleaned up?)
>To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>Message-ID: <4D13AEAF.1090503 at thirdcontact.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>  On 12/23/2010 11:24 AM, Raymond Wagner wrote:
>> I can't come up with a reason why you should be seeing this error.  
>> There is an important line near the bottom of the script:
>>
>> DB.searchRecorded.handler = MyRecorded
>>
>> The only thing I can think of is you both somehow managed to mess up 
>> copy-paste by missing the same line.
>
>
>See the top of http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Scripts .
>
>Mike
>
>
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>
>Message: 13
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:24:39 -0500
>From: Jarod Wilson <jarod at wilsonet.com>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Fedora vs. CentOS - Thoughts
>To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>Message-ID: <9E29E549-9C28-4F44-A498-8482FE841A77 at wilsonet.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Meant to reply to this a while ago. Better late than never...
>
>On Nov 24, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Greg Oliver wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Jarod Wilson <jarod at wilsonet.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 24, 2010, at 1:17 AM, Greg Oliver wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Jarod Wilson <jarod at wilsonet.com> wrote:
>...
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jarod,


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