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Mark Hutchinson markhsa at gmail.com
Tue Aug 24 21:04:57 UTC 2010


Does something like this make a good frontend?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813153161&cm_re=atom-_-13-153-161-_-Product

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Mark Hutchinson <markhsa at gmail.com> wrote:

> So maybe use an atom with a Nvidia GPU?
> If not, then does a Nvidia 9400M that I see listed frequently onboard with
> the atom work well?
>
> This is where I get confused on the frontend atom vs Nvidia etc...
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:55 PM, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:02:25PM -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>> >  On 08/24/2010 02:51 PM, Mark wrote:
>> > >Mark Hutchinson wrote:
>> > >>Good point yes.
>> > >>What might some good options be for small frontend machines be
>> > >>that can be turned off and on easily? I plan to have the
>> > >>frontends all in the basement as I have 3 CAT 6 cables run to
>> > >>each TV.  2 cat6 for HDMI and the 3rd for a remote or kb/mouse.
>> > >>Does suspend work for this?  How would they be woken up?
>> > >>
>> > >>Thanks for the thoughts.
>> > >have you considered mini-ITX atom boards for local frontends?
>> > >They are very small and make no noise.
>> > >
>> > >Remote pc's and long wires are a pain, in case you have'nt played
>> > >with that yet...
>> >
>> > OK, I'm not going to recommend any specific system.  Normally, I
>> > wouldn't even reply, but I'd just like to inject a bit of
>> > non-marketing reality into the thread.
>> >
>> > Note, also, in the interest of full disclosure, I am a /confirmed/
>> > Atom-hater.  I have a huge and deep bias against Atom.  (For some
>> > reason, I feel a computer should be able to compute.)
>> >
>> > That said, low-power doesn't have to mean a toy.  See what proper
>> > design of a real computer system can do (whether you do it or Apple
>> > does):
>> >
>> > http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html
>> > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3468
>> >
>> > (10W idle and 85W max power consumption) and if you figure you'd be
>> > using VDPAU for decoding /when VDPAU works with the stream you're
>> > decoding/, you'd be running at close to that idle 10W even when
>> > decoding, for example, h.264 video.  The big difference, however, is
>> > that you actually have computing power in reserve when you need it
>> > (for Flash or video that doesn't meet the codec, profile, bitrate,
>> > and deinterlacing limitations of VDPAU or whatever other proprietary
>> > problems we can't solve).
>> >
>> > Now, even if an ION system ran at 0W, and we assume the Mac Mini is
>> > running at close to idle when using VDPAU decode, that's a typical
>> > savings of only about 10W.  And, if you're shutting down your
>> > frontend when not in use, the difference between an Atom-based toy
>>
>>   OTOH, the Atom based toy probably has a very user friendly power button.
>>
>>  Plus they are cheap.
>>
>>  I'm the first guy to declare that an Atom is crap for anything but that
>> which can be accelerated by an nvidia GPU. However, I have still used them
>> to replace Mac Minis.
>>
>> [deletia]
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