[mythtv-users] Hardware databases

jedi jedi at mishnet.org
Fri Jan 30 01:06:25 UTC 2009


On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 05:03:18PM -0700, Brian Phillips wrote:
> Brad DerManouelian wrote:
> > On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:00 PM, jedi wrote:
> > 
> >>    Yes, the "I can do it therefore everyone else can" approach.
> >> 
> >>    This breaks down far too easily, especially in a user community
> >> that may be comfortable with assembler, C++ or SQL.
> > 
> > I promised myself I wouldn't respond any more to this thread, but
> > when you suggest it's too hard for someone to read a wiki page to
> > find hardware recommendations (right up there with programming

    Well, some of us aren't able to do so much as try a different app
for some things. So the idea that some people might be less able to 
slog through a lot of research material and get a good sense of all
the information is hardly so extraordinary.

> > assembler), I really am at a loss for what solution you would propose
> > that would be easier. Please enlighten me.. I'm all ears.    

    I already suggested it. This fellow is repeating it.

    What is being used versus what can be used is a very important distinction
and why lurking in this newsgroup is better than going through the entire list
of supported hardware on the wiki. 

> 
> I agree the wiki is a valuable resource.  It can provide minute details
> about how to get a piece of hardware working and, depending on the author,
> can be quite easy to follow.
> 
> However, the biggest drawback I see with a wiki, and the reason I suggested
> an automatic script that submitted a hardware listing, was two-fold:
> 1) create a "behind the scenes" submission.  I know I haven't edited the
> wiki for every piece of hardware I'm running.  Mostly because I'm running
> fairly common hardware and there is either a wiki page already created
> and/or it works out of the box.  Editing the wiki to say "yup, works for me
> too" is just a bit too much work I guess.
> 
> 2) create a "popularity" listing.  Usually when a wiki page is created for a
> piece of hardware, that's that.  There's no way of knowing if that piece of

Yes, it's very handy to see what people are using and what sort of problems
they are having with it. In that respect, this group is a very handy resource
when it comes to hardware shopping. Any active forum is because the information
is dynamic and better reflects the current state of things.

> hardware is used by 99% of the myth community or 1% of the community.  How
> can we let new users know what they can expect to receive help with?
> 
> A wiki is great and fulfills it's niche, but it just isn't seeming to get
> the job done when answering the question "What are the most common pieces of
> hardware out there?"  Really, I could edit it and say "well this is the most
> common hardware in my experience," but I doubt there's a person on this list
> who could definitively state with 100% certainty which pieces of hardware
> are popular choices and which aren't.
> 
> Just spitballing here anyway...
> 
> Brian
> 
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