[mythtv-users] Playback with xine?

jedi jedi at mishnet.org
Thu Feb 12 02:18:51 UTC 2009


On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 06:12:18PM -0800, Robert McNamara wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:05 PM, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:51:42AM +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Robert McNamara
> >> <robert.mcnamara at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> *sets mind to thinking* - is it logical to restrict users to Internal
> >> >> for recordings when freedom of choice is give in mythvideo?
> >> >
> >> > External players for recordings/Live TV is the LAST thing I would want
> >> > to see, personally.  I'd be happier seeing external player support go
> >> > away in MythVideo.  I've made the case for such before but (as I am
> >> > likely about to hear) people would fuh-reak out.
> >> >
> >> > External player support is a legacy option from when the internal
> >> > player had limited codec and container support.  In many MANY ways
> >> > now, the internal player is more capable than even mplayer, and
> >> > maintains the look and feel of myth throughout.  There are lots of
> >> > people who use (or moved in the past to) an external player because of
> >> > this reason, or because of a tiny bit of extra speed you can eke out
> >> > of a player with a more limited OSD/which does not read-write a
> >> > seektable/etc.  With the dawning of multithreaded/hardware accelerated
> >> > playback, this is becoming less and less relevant.    Then there's the
> >> > crowd who have minor issues with a container format (I'm looking at
> >> > *you*, MKV) who switch to get proper seeking *without* ever making an
> >> > effort to get the seeking fixed in MythTV (the MKV file is
> >> > semi-broken, a stream copy into a fresh container will fix seeking).
> >> > Yeah, I have some strong feelings on the matter.  I'd love to see the
> >> > external player support done away with entirely when playback becomes
> >> > trivial.
> >> >
> >> > Oh, and I want to see framegrabber support/support for PVR-350 video
> >> > out go away too.
> >> >
> >> > FLAME ON!
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> >
> >>
> >> Likewise I knew my post would not be uncontroversial :-)
> >>
> >> I tried to switch mythvideo to Internal some time ago and it didn't
> >> work for a significant number of avi files let alone mkv's, so I
> >
> >     Nevermind the frills. The internal player has problems just playing
> > stuff. It's pretty easy to throw something that will make it puke or
> > generate results that will make you want to puke. Being able to use
> > a different player in mythvideo is VERY handy.
> >
> >     Lack of bookmarks is a minor nuissance but you can't argue with
> > files that don't play right.
> >
> > [deletia]
> >
> >     Removing the external player feature in mythvideo seems to be a
> > dubious benefit and an obvious loss.
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> 
> Can you link your bug reports and sample submissions for those files?

    It's only a problem because you want to make it a problem.


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