[mythtv-users] Help: No program info for QAM256 channels

[zoiks2004-ivtv at yahoo.com]

If someone could Please HELP, I'd greatly appreciate
it.

First off, I DON'T have an issue with finding the
XMLTV IDs. I have them, from various sources. Fine.

Here is my big problem: Mythtv is not correctly
downloading programming data (or channel name or
anything else for that matter) even when I put the
XMLTV IDs in. I've spent a number of hours already on
this and I'm getting nowhere.

I know you're going to say start over, delete cards,
etc. I did. Here's a complete synopsis of my latest
attempt: (It's a bit exhaustive, but I'm desperate for
help here.) If someone can tell me what I'm doing
wrong I'd greatly appreciate it. Am I running into
bugs or am I doing something wrong?


Description of my most recent attempt:

1) Run mythtv-setup. Backend is stopped in the
process.
2) Delete all channels. Delete all transports.
(Couldn't there be a "Delete all transports" option?)
3) Delete all input connections. (Choose "None" for
Video Sources.)
4) Delete all video sources.
5) Delete all capture cards.
6) Restart mythtv-setup for good measure (without
running mythfilldatabase).
7) Review settings in "General". Confirm Channel
Frequency Table is set to us-cable-hrc.
8) Add capture card HDHR tuner 0. Timeouts = 1000ms,
3000ms.
9) Add capture card HDHR tuner 1. Timeouts = 1000ms,
3000ms.
10) Add video source "QAM256 over TWC".
SchedulesDirect (Internal), user, password, choose
"Retrieve Lineups". Choose lineup Time Warner Cable
Digital. EIT Scan = Off. Channel frequency table =
default.
11) Input Connection for HDHomeRun Port 0. Display
name = "HD 1". Video Source = "QAM256 over TWC". Quick
Tuning: LiveTV. Unencrypted Channels Only. Choose
"Scan for Channels".
12) Input: HDHomeRun Port 0. Scan Type: Full Scan.
Frequency Table: Cable HRC. Modulation: QAM256.
Channel separator 5.1 Period. Existing channel
treatment: Delete. Choose "Next". Wait while channels
are scanned.

[List of the "Added" lines:]
Adding 62#3 on QAM256 HRC 62 (62)
Adding 62#4 on QAM256 HRC 62 (62)
Adding 71#10 on QAM256 HRC 71 (71)
Adding 75#6 on QAM256 HRC 75 (75)
Adding 75#7 on QAM256 HRC 75 (75)
Adding 79#0 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#1 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#2 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#3 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#4 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#5 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#6 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#7 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#8 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#9 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#10 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 79#11 on QAM256 HRC 79 (79)
Adding 80#0 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 80#1 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 80#2 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 80#3 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 80#4 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 80#5 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 80#6 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 80#7 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 80#8 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 80#9 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 80#10 on QAM256 HRC 80 (80)
Adding 86#3 on QAM256 HRC 86 (86)
Adding 86#4 on QAM256 HRC 86 (86)
Adding 87#0 on QAM256 HRC 87 (87)
Adding 87#1 on QAM256 HRC 87 (87)
Adding 87#4 on QAM256 HRC 87 (87)
Adding 90#11 on QAM256 HRC 90 (90)
Adding 90#12 on QAM256 HRC 90 (90)
Adding 91#4 on QAM256 HRC 91 (91)
Adding 92#9 on QAM256 HRC 92 (92)
Adding 93#0 on QAM256 HRC 93 (93)
Adding 93#1 on QAM256 HRC 93 (93)
Adding 93#2 on QAM256 HRC 93 (93)
Adding 94#0 on QAM256 HRC 94 (94)
Adding 94#1 on QAM256 HRC 94 (94)
Adding 94#2 on QAM256 HRC 94 (94)
Adding 96#0 on QAM256 HRC 96 (96)
Adding 96#1 on QAM256 HRC 96 (96)
Adding 96#2 on QAM256 HRC 96 (96)
Adding 96#3 on QAM256 HRC 96 (96)
Adding 96#4 on QAM256 HRC 96 (96)
Adding 96#5 on QAM256 HRC 96 (96)
Adding 96#6 on QAM256 HRC 96 (96)
Adding 96#7 on QAM256 HRC 96 (96)
Adding 96#8 on QAM256 HRC 96 (96)
Adding 96#9 on QAM256 HRC 96 (96)
Adding 100#0 on QAM256 HRC 100 (100)
Adding 100#2 on QAM256 HRC 100 (100)
Adding 105#0 on QAM256 HRC 105 (105)
Adding 105#0 on QAM256 HRC 105 (105)
[...]
Adding 105#43 on QAM256 HRC 105 (105)
Adding 105#48 on QAM256 HRC 105 (105)
[...]
Adding 105#52 on QAM256 HRC 105 (105)
Adding 110#0 on QAM256 HRC 110 (110)
Adding 116#1 on QAM256 HRC 116 (116)
Adding 116#2 on QAM256 HRC 116 (116)
Adding 116#5 on QAM256 HRC 116 (116)
Adding 118#0 on QAM256 HRC 118 (118)
Adding 118#1 on QAM256 HRC 118 (118)


I DO NOT select the "Fetch listings" button. Change
"Starting Channel" from "Please add..." to "100#0".
Choose "Next". Leave defaults: (Input priority 0,
Input Group 1 Generic, Input Group 2 Generic.)
13) Go to Channel Editor to inspect channels. Note
that channels are in a different order than the scan.
Also note that they don't correctly sort by either
channel name or channel number. Is this a bug?

[sort mode name:]
(Unnamed:1941)(94#1)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1811)(80#9)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1810)(80#8)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1809)(80#7)(QAM256 over TWC)
[...]
(Unnamed:1802)(80#0)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1801)(79#11)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1812)(80#10)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1863)(86#3)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1864)(86#4)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1940)(94#0)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1932)(93#2)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1931)(93#1)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1930)(93#0)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1929)(92#9)(QAM256 over TWC)
(Unnamed:1912)(90#12)(QAM256 over TWC)
[...]

[sort mode channel number:]
62#4.(Unnamed:1624)(QAM256 over TWC)
62#3.(Unnamed:1623)(QAM256 over TWC)
71#10.(Unnamed:1720)(QAM256 over TWC)
75#6.(Unnamed:1756)(QAM256 over TWC)
75#7.(Unnamed:1757)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#8.(Unnamed:1798)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#9.(Unnamed:1799)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#10.(Unnamed:1800)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#11.(Unnamed:1801)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#7.(Unnamed:1797)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#6.(Unnamed:1796)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#5.(Unnamed:1795)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#0.(Unnamed:1790)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#1.(Unnamed:1791)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#2.(Unnamed:1792)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#3.(Unnamed:1793)(QAM256 over TWC)
79#4.(Unnamed:1794)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#10.(Unnamed:1812)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#9.(Unnamed:1811)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#8.(Unnamed:1810)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#7.(Unnamed:1809)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#6.(Unnamed:1808)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#5.(Unnamed:1807)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#4.(Unnamed:1806)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#3.(Unnamed:1805)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#2.(Unnamed:1804)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#1.(Unnamed:1803)(QAM256 over TWC)
80#0.(Unnamed:1802)(QAM256 over TWC)
86#3.(Unnamed:1863)(QAM256 over TWC)
86#4.(Unnamed:1864)(QAM256 over TWC)
87#0.(Unnamed:1870)(QAM256 over TWC)
87#1.(Unnamed:1871)(QAM256 over TWC)
87#4.(Unnamed:1874)(QAM256 over TWC)
90#11.(Unnamed:1911)(QAM256 over TWC)
90#12.(Unnamed:1912)(QAM256 over TWC)
[...]

14) Exit mythtv-setup. Backend is restarted.
15) Run mythfilldatabase. Spends a while downloading.
Seems to have run just fine.
16) Run mythfrontend. Choose "Watch TV". Pre-chosen
channel "UNKNOWN100#0" is showing a color test
pattern.
17) Hit "up" key to start looking at channel
information. Shows "USAP - 105#0" "Law and Order:
Criminal Intent. 'Stress Position' 11:00AM - 12:00AM"
- I know this is bogus because all the 105#XX channels
are untunable. They are the music channels TWC
provides that don't get picked up correctly. (I get an
error every time I try to tune them.)
18) Next channel up "UNKNOWN62#3": programming
"Unknown". I hit enter to go ahead and start watching
this channel. It's an on-demand channel, showing ads
in the upper right corner of the screen. I don't care
much about this channel.
19) Next up "UNKNOWN62#4": This is a high def channel.
Programming "Unknown". I know from my previous
spreadsheet this is KTLA 5 HD. I decide that the call
sign should be KTLADT, whose XMLTV ID is 19515. Hit
the "e" key while watching live TV on 62#4. Channel
Editor shows:
    Channel Editor
    Callsign  Unknown62#4
    Channel #  62#4
    Channel Name  Loading...
    XMLTV ID  Loading...
OK so now I enter the number 19515 in the "XMLTV ID"
field. I then choose "OK". Doesn't seem to do
anything. From the advice on the wiki, I will "wait a
minute" to let it refresh its data. After 10 minutes,
OSD programming information still says "UNKNOWN62#4"
program is "Unknown". For shoots and giggles, exit
Live TV and choose "Watch TV" again. Still the same:
Channel: "UNKNOWN62#4" Program: "Unknown". I hit the
"e" button again. XMLTV ID is still 19515, other data
is unchanged from "Unknown", etc. This time I select
"Probe". I wait a few minutes, suffering through "John
Beck's" get rich buying government foreclosures BS. I
wait several more minutes. Nothing ever changes.
20) I exit LiveTV and mythfrontend. I run
mythfilldatabase again. After it's done, I run
mythfrontend again. Still shows "UNKNOWN62#4" with
program: Unknown.
21) Quit mythtv and reboot machine.
22) Run mythtv-setup.
23) Go to channel editor, sort by channel number. 62#4
is the first channel listed. Shows as "62#4.
Loading... (QAM256 over TWC)"
24) Select 62#4 for editing. Channel name is
"Loading...". Channel number is 62#4. Callsign is
"UNKNOWN62#4". Visible checked. Source: QAM256 over
TWC. TV Format Default, Priortiy 0. "Use on-air
guide:" is unchecked, 19515 shows in the ID box. Hit
"Next" twice. Frequency or channel shows 62. Finetune
(kHz): 0.
25) Examining the other channels in the Channel
Editor:

62#4. Loading... [Note: Should be KTLADT KTLA 5 HD
id:19515]
62#3. (Unnamed:1623)
71#10. (Unnamed:1720)
75#6. (Unnamed:1756) [Note: Should be MTV2 I think.]
75#7. (Unnamed:1757) [Note: Should be MTV I think.]
79#8. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific) [Note:
Spanish language station.]
79#9. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific) [Note:
Spanish language station.]
79#10. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific) [Note: KBS
World Korean, IB Home Shopping.]
79#11. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific) [Note:
Japanese, Ads, other.]
79#7. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific) [Note: Chan
22? Spanish.]
79#6. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific) [Note:
Spanish.]
79#5. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific) [Note: Should
be Univision.]
79#0. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific) [Note: Should
be ABC7.]
79#1. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific)
79#2. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific)
79#3. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific)
79#4. Galavision Cable Network (Pacific)
80#10. (Unnamed:1812) [Note: Should be KDOC id:10410]
80#9. (Unnamed:1811) [Note: Should be HSN]
80#8. (Unnamed:1810) [Note: Should be CSPAN 10161]
[...]
110#0. Bravo (Pacific Feed) [Note: Should be NBA TV.]
116#1. Video Hits One (Pacific) [Note: Should be ABC
Weather Now.]
116#2. Video Hits One (Pacific) [Note: Should be KABC
(HD? 19570?).]
116#5. Video Hits One (Pacific) [Note: Should be
NBC4Weather+.]
118#0. MTV2 West [Note: Should be KCAL9 HD id:20364.]
118#1. MTV2 West [Note: SHould be KOCE HD id:34544.]

26) Quit mythtv-setup. Run mythfrontend. Go to live
TV, change channel to 80#8. (Should be CSPAN.) Enter
10161 for XMLTV ID. Hit "Probe" button. Wait for
several minutes while nothing happens. Hit ctrl-P and
wait again while it still does nothing.
27) Hit "Ok". Exit live TV. Re-enter LIve TV. Still
UNKNOWN80#8 with Unknown program. quit mythfrontend.
28) Open mythtv-setup again. Examine Channel Editor.
For 80#8 it says: "Loading... (80#8) (QAM256 over
TWC)".
29) No joy. Time to email mythtv-users for help.