[mythtv-users] Commercial flagging on a sample basis

Michael T. Dean mtdean at thirdcontact.com
Tue Mar 25 18:48:28 UTC 2008


On 03/25/2008 02:34 PM, Mike Perkins wrote:
> Michael T. Dean wrote:
>   
>>> Someone, somewhere will sometime write:
>>>       
>>>> To be written by someone someday:
>>>>         
>>>>> At a subsequent time, a user will write:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Some day, some person will write:
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> On some day after today, another person will write:
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> On the morrow, someone else will write:
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> On 03/25/2008 12:42 PM, Nick F wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/25/08, Mike Perkins <mikep at randomtraveller.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> "Commercial flagging is pretty good, but not perfect". Yeah, in the US. in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> UK it's so iffy I gave up and have been manually marking segments by hand
>>>>>>>>>>> ever
>>>>>>>>>>> since. Which I'd rather not have to do. Be nice if some of the methods
>>>>>>>>>>> that work
>>>>>>>>>>> over *there* could be modified so they also work over *here*, not to
>>>>>>>>>>> mention
>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere. Just sayin'.
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed.  I'm in the UK and after trying ever combination of
>>>>>>>>>> commercial-skipping and setting finally gave up.  Commercial skipping would
>>>>>>>>>> be great to have.  Since I lack any coding skills that would be relevant to
>>>>>>>>>> creating a UK (European?) solution I've never really commented before, but I
>>>>>>>>>> wonder if this is similar to the multi-rec functionality which was solved by
>>>>>>>>>> the have-nots contributing to a bounty to try to attract a suitably
>>>>>>>>>> qualified dev to pick it up?  I'd gladly chip in or help any way I could.
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>> Why not have it detect when the audio goes silent?
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Or, we could have it detect those annoying logos on the screen
>>>>>>> during the show.  This might be hard if they use those really
>>>>>>> annoying animated logos.
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Or, we could detect when the audio stream changes type, like going
>>>>>> from AC-3 during the show to MP2 during the commercials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, how hard would it be to automatically erase those logos on the
>>>>>> screen during the show.
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Or, we could detect when the resolution or frame rate changes.
>>>>>           
>>>> Or, we could set up a P2P distributed commflagging approach to help
>>>> out people with low-powered backends.
>>>>         
>>> And it could be intelligent and learn from what other users actually
>>> watch and what they skip.
>>>       
>> There.  I think I finished the thread up for you.  Let me know if I
>> forgot anything.  ;)
>>
>>     
> Yes. *None of the above works satisfactorily in the UK*.

Yeah, TTBOMK, none of the above (with the exception of logo detection,
but in a bit more robust implementation) are actually implemented--so I
guess they don't work satisfactorily anywhere.  ;)  I was just
experiencing some deja vu and thought others may want some, too.

It just seems like every time the issue of commflagging precision comes
up, we get tons of suggestions and no code, so I figured I'd get the
suggestions out of the way and let everyone else help me with the no
code part--though I would love for some one to decide not to help with
the no code part as some of these may actually be very good for.  :)

Mike


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