[mythtv-users] Still having problems scanning channels... or am I?

[Brian Walter]

Harry Devine wrote:
> Brian Walter wrote:
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>> Harry Devine wrote:
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>>> Brian L. Walter wrote:
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>>>> Harry Devine wrote:
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>>>>> I started a thread about a month ago concerning not being able to get 
>>>>> any channels when I scan.  Well, I get some, but they are all listed 
>>>>> strangely to me.  I get channels such as 79#0, 79#1, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> So tonight I was looking at some info on the HDHomerun since I see alot 
>>>>> of posts about it on this list, in case I wanna add one to my setup.  I 
>>>>> went to the following page, and saw that the 79#0, etc. actually MEAN 
>>>>> something in my setup:  
>>>>> http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineupui?Cmd=LocationProgramsWeb&Country=US&Postcode=08234
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess what I'm getting at is that can I assume that my channels are 
>>>>> actually getting scanned properly and just aren't in a format that I can 
>>>>> understand?  Do I need to use the channel editor to map them over to 
>>>>> channels that I'm used to seeing (Channel 6, Channel 10, etc.)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Harry
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>>>> Harry,
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>>>> The short answer is yes.
>>>>
>>>> The slightly longer answer - Some channels are sent with info on them, 
>>>> for instance, WBZ-DT.  These will be added with the name and 
>>>> description, but you have to map the channels and the xmltvids to 
>>>> something that SD or whatever your listing source recognizes.
>>>>
>>>> In mapping the unknowns (74#0), I use a combination of the hdhr config 
>>>> utility and the frontend to figure out which channel is which.  Scanning 
>>>> will add something like 74#0, but, that does not directly map to 
>>>> something that hdhr presents.  It might be 74.1, or 
>>>> 74.11....*generally*, it maps them starting at 0, incrementing by one.
>>>>
>>>> For instance, hdhr presents 74.11, 74.12 and 74.13.  Usually this gets 
>>>> mapped into myth as 74#0, 74#1 and 74#2, *if* myth saw all 3 
>>>> channels...it may not have, so visually verify them in the frontend.  
>>>> I've deleted my hdhr sourced and re-added them quite a few times  till I 
>>>> fugured that out.
>>>>
>>>> HTH.
>>>> Brian
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>>> OK, I just started trying to map the HDHomerun lineup frequencies (I 
>>> don't have an HDHomerun; only a pcHDTV-5500 card, but their lineup for 
>>> my zipcode is the only source that I've seen where I can see the 
>>> relationship between the transmitted channel and call-sign) to the 
>>> channel names/numbers that I'm familiar with, and I want to be sure I'm 
>>> going about it correctly.  I am using the channel editor via MythWeb.
>>>
>>> delete 	sourceid 	xmltvid 	channum 	callsign 	name 	freqid 	finetune 
>>> videofilters 	brightness 	contrast 	colour 	hue 	recpriority 	commfree 
>>> visible 	useonairguide
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>>>
>>> 	1 															
>>> 	1 															
>>> 	1 															
>>> 	1 															
>>> 	1 															
>>>
>>>
>>> The HDHomerun lineup (via the link above in my original post) shows the 
>>> following for those channels (I assume):
>>> qam256 	113 	1 	WPVIDT 	1280x720p
>>> 	16:9
>>> 	
>>> <http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/snapshot_21995.jpg>
>>> qam256 	113 	2 	WCAUDT 	1920x1080i
>>> 	16:9
>>> 	
>>> <http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/snapshot_20777.jpg>
>>> qam256 	113 	3 	WPVIDT2 	704x480i
>>> 	4:3
>>> 	
>>> qam256 	113 	4 	WPVIDT3 	704x480i
>>> 	4:3
>>> 	
>>> qam256 	113 	5 	WCAUDT2 	640x480i
>>> 640x480p
>>> 	4:3
>>>
>>>
>>> Do I have to do anything with the finetune column?  I just want to make 
>>> sure that what I'm assuming is correct.  Also, the HDHomerun lineup 
>>> shows alot of 8VSB channels, but when I scan for channels in Myth, I 
>>> don't get any of these.  Only these digital, unencrypted ones (like 
>>> 79#0, etc.).
>>>
>>> Thanks alot for all of the help.
>>> Harry
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>> Harry,
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>> You don't have to do anything to the other columns.
>>
>> Lets take 79#0 as an example.
>>
>> We've discovered, via tuning it by some method (frontend or other 
>> utility), that it is NBC-DT for your area.
>>
>> What I do in this case is the following via mythweb:
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>> 1) Change the xmltvid from blank to the correct value from my schedule 
>> provider
>> 2) Change the channum to the channel number from my schedule provider 
>> (for the sake of illustration 79#0->4.1)
>> 3) Change the call sign to the appropriate value (again, for the sake of 
>> illustration UNKOWN79#0->WBZ-DT)
>> 4) Change the Frequency from 79 to the channel number from my schedule 
>> provider (79->804).
>>
>> Save the changes.
>>
>> In the case where the scan identifies the channel correctly, I need to 
>> only do steps 1 and 4 from above.
>>
>> HTW
>>
>> Brian
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> If I look at my SchedulesDirect lineup and hover over a channel, is the 
> number that comes up the xmltvid?  For example, my local ABC is channel 
> 6.  When I hover over it, it shows a value of 11794.  Is this what I put 
> into the xmltvid column for that channel in MythWeb or the Channel Editor?
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
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Harry,

Goes to show how stuck in my ways I am.....

I was still doing it via viewing the source of the page. 

But...11794 *sounds* like a xmltvid - and I just confirmed it for my 
settings.  (Cool feature...wish I'd know about it sooner :) )

I've only used mythweb to update HD channels - I've not experience with 
the frontend channel editor..so I can't comment on the editor.

Brian