[mythtv-users] Myth Developers ban all use of MythTV as a PVR due to IP infringement?

[Matt]

On 9/7/07, Matt <skd5aner at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/7/07, Kevin Hulse <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 11:21:37AM -0700, Andreas wrote:
> > > Le Freitag, 7. September 2007, Brett Kosinski a écrit:
> > > > On 9/7/07, James Gutshall Jr <warchildx at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 9/7/07, William Munson <william_munson at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > > > As always you are free to do what you want however this thread is now
> > > > > > flagged for auto deletion as feeding the trolls does no good. If the
> > > > > > troll wants to scrape web sites let him, I prefer to receive high
> > > > > > quality listings at a very reasonable charge. After all, if you
> > > > > > cannot afford $5/month you should not be building PVR systems, you
> > > > > > probably should not even own a computer, you should be out there
> > > > > > working your butt off making a living.
> > > > >
> > > > > I strongly disagree with this comment.  I for one do work my butt off.
> > > > > I have a family, bills, and a kid.
> > > > > The "cannot afford $5 per month" may not specifically be not having the
> > > > > $5.  it is the fact of justifying spending the $5 for listing data
> > > > > versus spending it on your family.
> > > >
> > > > Dude.  It's *5 dollars*.  You could save that by forgoing your morning
> > > > coffee for a few days.  And that's over double what the expected target
> > > > fee structure will be.
> > > >
> > > > Honestly, if you can't scrounge up a few bucks a month for quality
> > > > listings data, you really should be rethinking your finances a bit.
> > > > That, or reconsidering why you built a Myth box in the first place.
> > >
> > > you really think that someone who has problems "scrounging up a few bucks"
> > > did not already rethink his finances over and over?
> >
> >        Been there, done that, have the battle scars.
> >
> >        No, I don't think this guy has really seriously (or competently)
> > reconsidered his finances if he's worried about another 5 bux while
> > posting HERE.
> >
> >        Being a cheap bastard is one thing, living beyond your means
> > is another.
> >
> > >
> > > And "reconsider why you built a Myth box"? Maybe you want to lay out the
> > > minimum financial specifications for a Myth box builder and put that info
> > > in the wiki ?
> >
> >        "It's really cool. If it breaks and you can't afford to fix it. It will really suck."
> >
> >        In the best case, you will eventually have to replace parts of the system as they wear out.
>
>
> I'm sorry, but I have to say that it's notne of your business to
> criticize how someone budgets their money.  Who are you to lecture
> people on their finances?  $5 to you might not be a big deal, and it
> might not be a big deal to 90% of SD users, but you know what, $5 is
> $5.  If he believes that $5 spent is better off on his family and
> other expenses, then I can't argue with that.  You're looking strictly
> at the dollar ammount and stating that it's not much so just spend it.
>  That's why people in the world are getting more and more in debt
> every day... by conviencing themselves "it's just another $5, what
> could that hurt?".
>
> I have a wife too, who can't live without the mythbox, but she'll let
> me know everytime it crashes, is slow, misses a showing, etc and say:
> "let's just use the STB we pay for so I can watch my stupid TV show
> without you having to fix something".
>
> As stable as myth is, it's not really stable enough that I could build
> a mythbox for someone and not have to worry about it.  Also, paying
> for something that used to be free or that you are just "playing" with
> isn't always a simple decision regarless of the price point put on it.
>
> Something is only as valuable as what someone else is willing to pay
> for it.  And since we're all unique, that's not a universal number.
>
> Thanks!
> Matt
>


I should mention that I am a paying member of SD and have no problem
paying the said amount.  I feel it's appropriate for the quality of
data and service I'm getting and appreciate the fact that they're
trying to drop the price in the future.  Even if they didn't, it's not
unreasonable - but that's me, and I can't expect my reasoning and
expectations match up with those of every other mythtv/SD user.

Anyway, on another note... I too use a lot of the advanced recording
options, including max recordings, do (or don't) record new, auto (or
don't) expire, priorities, scheduling my favorites in HD and some
others in SD, recording a few shows in case I don't want to watch
anything else (like recording Conan and keeping the last 2 latest
recordings at any given time), etc.  The flexibility of myth is
amazing and I don't even know how many recording rules I have... I'm
sure I could easily find out, but it's been over 3 years now since
I've started using myth and they've built up.

Thanks!
Matt