[mythtv-users] [OT] im so sorry. test.

[Michael T. Dean]

OK, how about an example.  Below is a proper reply and at bottom is the 
mess I started with before cleaning it up.  Notice in the proper reply 
the trimming (especially of useless Hash stuff, signatures, and the 
previous mailing list footers.  Normally, I would have also trimmed the 
irrelevant information--the part about not receiving own posts and 
GMail, but I left it in to show a deeply-threaded reply.  Also, note the 
top-down style (because that's how the English world reads):

On 03/13/2006 07:17 AM, Michael Freeman wrote:

>On 3/13/06, Kichigai Mentat <kichigai at comcast.net> wrote:
>  
>
>>On Mar 12, 2006, at 23.16, Dean Collins wrote:
>>
>>>Phill Edwards wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Someone, but I don't know who because a broken mail client did a Forward instead of a Reply, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, you are right.  I got that.  So no one recieves their own posts
>>>>>back?  Is there a way to change that?
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>I think you'll find that it might be gmail which is doing that. Don't
>>>>worry about it.
>>>>
>>>>PS - people in this group don't like it when people top-post so
>>>>please
>>>>don't do that.
>>>>
>>>Says who....I prefer top posters - I never got the concept of
>>>having to
>>>read all the way through an email to find the next addition.
>>>      
>>>
>>Well, the logic is that a message is going to have a number of parts,
>>as well as a number of different people replying. The idea is that
>>you put your part of the reply where it belongs.
>>
>>Like this!
>>
>I kinda agree with Dean....maybe you just didn't put enough space in there,
>but I read that quoted text twice before noticing your "Like this" in the
>middle of it.
>That style just seems harder to read to me.
>

And below is the mess you get if people use multiple reply styles and 
don't trim.  Do you really think it's more readable?  Regardless, the 
rules of /this/ list indicate that you should not top post and you 
should trim irrelevant information.  Therefore, when a new user is 
introduced to the rules of the list, please don't encourage him/her to 
ignore these rules.


On 03/13/2006 07:17 AM, Michael Freeman wrote:

>On 3/13/06, Kichigai Mentat <kichigai at comcast.net> wrote:
>  
>
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>>Hash: SHA1
>>
>>On Mar 12, 2006, at 23.16, Dean Collins wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Says who....I prefer top posters - I never got the concept of
>>>having to
>>>read all the way through an email to find the next addition.
>>>
>>>Dean
>>>      
>>>
>>Well, the logic is that a message is going to have a number of parts,
>>as well as a number of different people replying. The idea is that
>>you put your part of the reply where it belongs.
>>
>>Duct Tape Tip No. 130:
>>     Cat underfoot? Tape it to the ceiling.
>>Duct Tape Tip No. 131:
>>     Dog underfoot? Tape it to the ceiling.
>>Duct Tape Tip No. 132:
>>     Kids underfoot?
>>     --The Duct Tape Book by Jim and Tim
>>    
>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org [mailto:mythtv-users-
>>>>bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Phill Edwards
>>>>Sent: Sunday, 12 March 2006 11:06 PM
>>>>To: Discussion about mythtv
>>>>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] im so sorry. test.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, you are right.  I got that.  So no one recieves their own posts
>>>>>back?  Is there a way to change that?
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>I think you'll find that it might be gmail which is doing that. Don't
>>>>worry about it.
>>>>
>>>>PS - people in this group don't like it when people top-post so
>>>>please
>>>>don't do that.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>Like this!
>>    
>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Phill
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>>>>http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>>>        
>>>>
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>>>      
>>>
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>I kinda agree with Dean....maybe you just didn't put enough space in there,
>but I read that quoted text twice before noticing your "Like this" in the
>middle of it.
>That style just seems harder to read to me.
>
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>

Notice that the cleaned up reply didn't require significant 
scrolling--even though the information was within/below the quotes.  
It's only when people are too lazy to trim that scrolling becomes annoying.

Mike