[mythtv-users] To TiVo or mythTV it

Jack Trout witmore1 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 12 06:59:44 UTC 2004


Well I dont know but there was an article about a year or so ago, it
was about TiVo actually they did something else that rose people in
arms, if you didnt have something scheduled for some show that they
partnered with a studio for it recorded it then, and people noticed
some wierd show that they didnt set to record on thier boxes the next
day. TiVo came out with a press release that said something to the
affect that it did no harm and the show was recorded to a part of the
system partition that wouldnt interfere with the recording of other
shows, but you couldnt delete it that it would be deleted on its own,
so essentially what your TiVo Records is forsale to the highest
bidder, at that point I decided I would never buy a TiVo and found
more info on programs like Myth where I could controll my box
implicitly



> The bigger issue is what the long term
> situation with TV listings is.  Right now we are getting them at the
> largess of zap2it.  This bothers me because they could pull the carpet
> out from underneath us any time they wanted to.  At that point mythtv
> becomes much less functional, because in the end what I really want is
> recorded TV that's based on accurate index information.  Who wants to go
> back to programming their VCR ?

Well In the earlier days everyone using xmltv had to use tv_grab_na or
its region equiv, what it originally did (and still does for european
countries) is grab a webpage and parse its data into an xml file which
myth could then import into its database, this takes much more
bandwidth than the current version DataDirect which actually supplies
just the raw xml. DataDirect was created because Many projects used
XMLTV and thier script to download thier pages (10-13 days worth) and
mine the data from that, costing zap2it to notice alot of bandwidth
being used in a way that is not consistant with the normal users
browsing habits (downloading 13 pages worth of listing in under 5
minutes just normally isnt done by joe schmoe user) so they figured it
out what and who was using it and began to offer this service which is
great for us, because using the grab method took much longer and
occassionally Zap2it would change thier layout or default listing
style and xmltv would break. But if TMI services or datadirect ever
goes away or becomes a pay service, and people dont think the money is
justified, they will just convert to grabing from zap2its site, or
just finding another site to use (maybe even having to find regional
and or local sites as there arent very many sites which are as
extensive as zap2it)
In Short, When theres a will theres a way, but Datadirect sure does
make it easier


On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:20:31 -0500, Christopher Flynn
<flynnguy at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:56:40 -0700 (MST), Rich
> <yahoo.rich at bladeracing.com> wrote:
> > No experience yet using IR devices with Linux.  If you have one you like
> > for the remote control I would like to hear from you.
> 
> http://www.lirc.org/receivers.html
> 
> Homebrew serial port works well with me. If you know how to use a
> soldering iron it's not too hard.
> -Chris
> 
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