[mythtv-users] bit of an update.. and nigly problems.. lol

[David]

Craig Tinson wrote:

>On Sat, 2004-05-29 at 15:17, David wrote:
>  
>
>>Craig Tinson wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>Are you running "mythfrontend" or "mythtv".  The frontend shouldn't 
>>>>complain about inputs unless you tried to watch live tv on too many of 
>>>>them at the same time (to many being defined as more than the number of 
>>>>capture cards you have).
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>all seperate machines.. backend server (FC1 with 1 AverMedia tv card) in
>>>one room.. frontend (FC1 running mythfrontend) in the living room (with
>>>TV) and my PC running FC2 (running mythfrontend)
>>>
>>>have I got my head around this wrong? isn't the myth backend allowed to
>>>stream livetv to as many clients as asks for it?
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Correct - you've got your head around it wrongly :)
>>
>>    
>>
>well.. bugger.. lol
>
>  
>
>>Myth can't stream liveTV to multiple clients.
>>    
>>
>>At first glance it's an obvious "why not?" they just need to see the 
>>ringbuffer...
>>
>>If you think it through you end up with channel change issues, who 
>>authorises recording to begin etc
>>
>>    
>>
>ok.. that makes sense I think for some setups.. wouldn't make any
>difference in my case though.. 
>
>ok.. will accept that I'm an idiot and should have thought this through
>more from the beginning.. lol
>
>but others here must have multiple frontends running from the same
>backend..
>  
>
Yep - including me :)
Basically there's no limit on access to recorded shows.
Any client, anywhere can access any recorded show at any time. (Have I 
missed any anys?)
However, for 'live' feeds that's different.

You have one 'live feed' per capture card. Which makes sense - each card 
can 'watch' one channel and capture it. That can then be:
* recorded to disk (in which case the backend 'owns' the feed.
* watched by *one* client (in which case that client 'owns' the feed - 
but the backend does the work of putting it into the ringbuffer)

so the simple answer (hah!) is to add an extra card - but even that has 
difficulties unless the card can decode the signals (ie free to air) - 
it's a problem for eg Sky in the UK 'cos you need 2 sky boxes (and 
anyone who says "bugger" is, I assume, from the UK too!)

>so whats the trick? reading the ringbuffer directly over nfs? is there
>somewhere I can read on how to set up myth for that? (I know the nfs
>stuff)
>  
>
Hmm - you possible could try that with xine or mplayer - I'm not aware 
you can do it with myth at all (yet?).

David