[mythtv-users] Step by Step Install

Tue May 4 10:31:26 EDT 2004

try http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/


Am Dienstag, 4. Mai 2004 15:51 schrieb Fullmer, Wayne:
> Where can I find a step by step install for MythTV using Red Hat 9.0.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Burghardt [mailto:jack at colades.dyndns.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 1:55 AM
> To: Bill at Explosivo.com; Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV production run
>
>
> What if you go to one of companies in China and tell them that need box of
> this size with tv tunner mpeg 2 decoder
> and that you want run linux on it they design it for you and write drivers
> and in volume it may cost you 100 to 150 a box and price hard drive. You
> can make more money in HDTV market
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Chmura" <Bill at Explosivo.com>
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV production run
>
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> > The other thing to see is that there is not just Tivo anymore.  The big
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> ones
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> > are starting to get in on it... so your digital cable box will have the
>
> same
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> > feature set soon.   Tivo is responding by dropping prices down to $149...
> >
> > More below...
> >
> > On Monday 03 May 2004 11:57 pm, Larry Howe wrote:
> > > I think the three most important things about getting more people to
> > > use linux (e.g. MythTV) are volume, volume, and volume. After volume,
> > > the
>
> next
>
> > > three most important things are ownership, privacy, and privacy.
> >
> > To get it into the mainstream you would have to just have it boot
>
> mythtv...
>
> > Linux would have to be transparent.  IMO anyway.  If you want to push
>
> volume
>
> > you don't want to be selling them another computer for the house (the
>
> wives
>
> > would never go for it)
> >
> > > Someone did mention volume and how there may not be too much advantage
>
> to
>
> > > more volume. I have a bit of a counterexample. I made some custom
>
> hardware
>
> > > a few years back and I could only break even when I made a couple at a
> > > time. When I did get an order for 20 or so at once, then I could turn a
> > > profit. This is of course a classic chicken and egg problem, more
> > > people don't use it because more people don't use it, etc.
> > >
> > > In terms of ownership and privacy, this is something I think needs to
> > > be emphasized more in all linux advocacy. Someone mentioned digeo.com
> > > on
>
> here
>
> > > and how it is "the competition" for MythTV. It is not the competition
>
> for
>
> > > MythTV. If you look at the digeo literature you'll see that it not only
> > > monitors your viewing, it then cleverly inserts targeted advertisements
> > > INTO THE NAVIGATION MENUS. So it is only the competition for people who
> > > don't mind that sort of thing.
> >
> > Which is the majority (myself excluded).  From what I have seen people
>
> will
>
> > tolerate a whole lot to save a buck.  To most people they don't care if
>
> their
>
> > viewing habits are recorded and tracked.
> >
> > > For me personally, maybe it's my age, but I've had one too many ads fed
>
> to
>
> > > me, and I don't want more of them popping up in new places. How many
>
> people
>
> > > would be willing to spend $20 per month for a supported MythTV that has
> > > more features, and isn't trying to sell them stuff? And would $20 per
>
> sub
>
> > > per month be enough to support a business of supporting mythtv boxes?
> >
> > Only if SCO doesn't notice :)... Seriously the costs of providing support
>
> will
>
> > add up fast.  Just to have one person on doing it full time (as primary
> > income) making lets say $35,000 / year would require something like 34
>
> people
>
> > paying $20 / month each.  That does not include phones, repaying for
> > hardware, investors, benefits, etc...  Not to mention credit card
>
> processing,
>
> > collecting from deadbeats (also known as customers on a good day).
> >
> > > I would be willing to put up some money (but not all the money) to
>
> support
>
> > > a short production run (20 boxes maybe?). I can also help with sales
> > > and marketing but someone else would
> > > have to do the design and offer the support. My feeling is we would
> > > have
>
> to
>
> > > hit near the $300 price point to even be able to sell 20. Any takers?
> >
> > Right now, tivo is selling for $149, plus $12.95 a month.  I have some
>
> future
>
> > in-laws with Tivos and when we go through the feature set they concur
> > that Myth does have some nice features but none of them seem to be ready
> > to switch.
> >
> > Can a myth box be put together that cheaply?  If you are going to count
> > on
>
> the
>
> > $20/mo to pay back the box it could be a long wait...  If your box costs
> > $500, it will take over 2 years to pay for the hardware alone.
> >
> > You also have the issue of support.  If you start selling these to people
>
> on a
>
> > support arrangement ($20/month) and then your XML feed for channel
> > information blows out you've got a problem.  What do you do when Jack
> > Valencia goes down to washington and gets them to ban time-shifting
>
> programs?
>
> > Effectively making recording illegal.  Yeah, I know it can never
> > happen... big business does not control the government...
> >
> > As a small business owner I can certainly tell you its a pain in the ass.
> >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > Quoting sukeband at vzavenue.net:
> > > > Hey everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I know the subject of selling commercial mythtv boxes has
> > > > been probably talked about to death, but Iâ?Td hate to see
> > > > talents and skill of the major developers on this, go
> > > > unrewarded monetarily. Iâ?Tve been playing around with the
> > > > software for a few months now and, I feel like it's nothing
> > > > short of brilliant.
> > > >
> > > > Is anyone adverse to the idea of marketing prebuilt systems
> > > > and having any some of generated go to the major developers?
> > > > Does anyone see a fairly large market for these? If this is
> > > > the case, I donâ?Tt see a problem taking advantage of that, if
> > > > it went towards the betterment of the players in the
> > > > community, especially the people that made this project
> > > > possible?
> > > >
> > > > What are your thoughts on this guys?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Rob
> > >
> > > ----- End forwarded message -----
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > - --
> >
> > Bill Chmura
> >
> > w. http://www.fistfullofcode.com
> > w. http://www.explosivo.com
> >
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> looking
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> > a little puffy."
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> >
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> the
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> > day with God"
> > - -Monster Magnet
> >
> > Without good motivation, science and technology, instead of helping,
> > bring more fear and threaten global destruction. Compassionate thought is
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