[mythtv-users] recorded shows

[Shawn Asmussen]

The article you have linked to specifically states that the guidelines
described within "do not have the force of law and have never been tested in
the courts". Those guidelines were created by a committee of educational
organizations and copyright owners, and have no bearing on the law
whatsoever. Also, those guidelines are for situation in which the program
being taped is not for private use, and the intention is to show the tape to
a group of students. Even if that guideline had any legal force, you're
trying to extend it to apply to situations it was never intended for.

Noncommercial home use of video cassette recorders falls under the fair use
doctrine because in the 1984 ruling in the case of Sony v. Universal City
Studios, the Supreme Court ruled so, and they pretty much have the final say
on the interpretation of the law.

Shawn Asmussen

-----Original Message-----
From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Tom Jaeger
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 2:41 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] recorded shows

Fair use guidelines are offially known as "Guidelines for Off-Air
Recording of Broadcast Programming for Educational Purposes"
So fair use does not apply to you unless you are a teacher and then does
not apply to HBO or other special services.
I have included a link for info on Fair use below.
Tom J

http://www.nolo.com/lawcenter/ency/article.cfm/objectID/94F1539D-B61C-41
5B-BE3ED4F8BFE7F1F3/catID/2EB060FE-5A4B-4D81-883B0E540CC4CB1E



> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of DanM
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:30 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] recorded shows
> 
> 
> >  * Tom Jaeger <tjaeger at networksinstalled.com> [040104 15:03]:
> >
> > > Yes if you want to be completely accurate it is against copyright
> > > law to make any copy of any show, movie, etc... Just saving it to
> > > a vcr or myth tv box is illegal. But no one is going to say
> > > anything as long as it is personal use. Tom J
> >
> >
> >  You're misinformed.
> I concur.  there was a case back in the mid 80's when vcr's 
> came out by 
> I want to say the tv and movie studios against VCR makers 
> regarding the 
> ability to record off the air.  IIRC the court decided that 
> it is LEGAL, 
> and within the fair-use laws to record for personal use.
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