[mythtv-users] resolution discussion

Jarod C. Wilson jcw at wilsonet.com
Wed Sep 17 23:26:06 EDT 2003


On Wednesday, Sep 17, 2003, at 08:28 US/Pacific, Ray Olszewski wrote:

> At 08:24 PM 9/16/2003 -0700, Jarod C. Wilson wrote:
>> On Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003, at 11:40 US/Pacific, Dale Weber wrote:
> [...]
>>> P.S.  WHY do I keep getting shut off this list for excessive bounces 
>>> when I
>>>         check my e-mail at LEAST once a day?
>>
>> It doesn't matter how often you check your mail. It matters how often 
>> your mail server bounces messages sent by the list server. Do you 
>> have some sort of mail filtering that is accidentally blocking 
>> messages from the list, by chance?
>
> Jared is right, but there is a less obvious possibility too that is 
> worth mentioning. You may have an MX problem. Dale, your hostname has 
> this MX listing:
>
> autovcr at waverly:~$ host -t MX thedynaplex.net
> thedynaplex.net         MX      0 mail.zoneedit.com
> thedynaplex.net         MX      0 mail2.zoneedit.com
>
> If one of these hosts is set to relay mail on to thedynaplex.net but 
> the other is not, you will get bounces that -- from the viewpoint of 
> your own host -- have no rhyme or reason, since they will depend 
> solely on which of these hosts gets selected by a sending MTA.

Heh. Didn't dig into it that far. Definitely check to see if one of 
those MXs isn't set up quite right...

> But good mailing list software -- like Mailman -- will see and react 
> to the bounces ... usually automatically, so the unsubscribe is done 
> without anyone at the list end seeing the bounces (trust me -- list 
> managers do not have time to read piles of bounce messages).
>
> I really have encountered people with this specific problem (a 
> misconfigured MX relay) in the recent past, though I've no way of 
> knowing how common it is. If it is a problem, the only possible fixes 
> are from your end, and they are:

Pretty common in my experience. The biggest screw-up is the 'loops back 
to me' error when people don't set up their domain's DNS records 
right...

> In any case, since mail to you does not go directly to your server (or 
> workstation), you need to take into account the possibility of some 
> problem -- either the one I suggested or some unknown problem -- at 
> one or both of these other servers.

I'd be interested to hear what the resolution to the problem is, just 
for the sake of posterity. This type of thing is what I deal with on a 
regular basis for my paying work (that stuff I do when not lurking on 
the mythtv lists, irc, emails, etc)...

--Jarod

-- 
Jarod C. Wilson, RHCE

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