[mythtv-users] Re: mythtv-users Digest, Vol 2, Issue 24
Brian P. Moffatt (WireRat Software, Inc.)
brian.moffatt at wirerat.com
Mon Mar 17 02:04:19 UTC 2003
anyone have mythtv running and a quad pIII 600-800 box yet? Tell me about it
please?
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
behind me."
-- General George S. Patton
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> 1. Re: MythShowtimes Module? (Andy Davidoff)
> 2. Re: Using mythfilldatabase in Germany (Stephan Wentz)
> 3. RE: Screen turns off after 15 minutes (Ben Brown)
> 4. Re: MythShowtimes Module? (JC)
> 5. Re: MythShowtimes Module? (Andy Davidoff)
> 6. Mythzilla (Rob Snow)
> 7. RE: Mythzilla (Alex Wilbur)
> 8. RE: Mythzilla (Rob Snow)
> 9. RE: Mythzilla (Alex Wilbur)
> 10. Really Dumb question (Malcolm Wotton)
> 11. Re: Really Dumb question (Bruce Markey)
> 12. Re: MythShowtimes Module? (Martin Moeller)
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> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:36:01 -0500
> From: Andy Davidoff <dert at pobox.com>
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythShowtimes Module?
> Message-ID: <20030315193600.GA14553 at zebar.net>
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> Message: 1
>
> My ratings/stars/year patches are already in CVS. I'm working on the
actors
> element, but I'm still in the research phase. At the moment, I'm planning
on
> creating a P2P network for metadata on video and audio media. The big
issue
> is where to (legally) get the data. Real Life has reared its ugly head,
so I
> am not sure when (if?) this code will get written...
>
> BTW, if you use MythWeb, you'll find a movies page which will demonstrate
the
> patches -- I haven't bothered to put the new data into the MythTV
interfaces.
>
>
> #if JC /* Mar 14, 12:44 */
> > It would be great to see the actors, number of stars (I think somebody's
> > got this in the works), year, ratings, and a paragraph on the show, and
> > all the other details. What a great way to decide which late-night AMC
> > classic to record / tune into!
> #endif /* johnmythtv at crombe.com */
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:00:36 +0100 (CET)
> From: "Stephan Wentz" <wentz at gmx.de>
> To: <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Using mythfilldatabase in Germany
> Message-ID: <1511.80.143.179.96.1047765636.squirrel at mail.temporary.de>
> In-Reply-To: <200303151114.57179.ijr at po.cwru.edu>
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> Message: 2
>
> > Yes, no one has bothered to send in a working patch to fix things with
> > tv_grab_de. mythfilldatabase will remain broken for tv_grab_de until
> > that happens.
>
> this isn't this easy - a patch wouldn't suffice.
> tv_grab_de returns really bad data, only about half of the normal german
> channels, what wouldn't be a problem, but the data that it returns has
> another big problem - big parts are wrong! it shows shows (ahem) that run
> on different channels, has wrong times, things are missing and so on.
> i can only suggest everyone in germany who has the chance to do so use
> nxtvepg, which gathers data from nextview, which is broadcasted on several
> channels here in germany. nxtvepg can export data in xmltv-format.
>
> bye, stephan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:09:49 -0500
> From: "Ben Brown" <ben at handcoder.com>
> To: "'Discussion about mythtv'" <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Screen turns off after 15 minutes
> Message-ID: <003501c2eb3f$99605710$8902a8c0 at Ben>
> In-Reply-To: <3E72854E.6010105 at racarris.com>
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> <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Message: 3
>
> I have found that blackbox serves my purpose much better than KDE. From
> a WM boot time stand point, balckbox is up and ready before KDE and even
> display the starting up splash screen.
>
> On a performance level, I've found blackbox to work much better when
> doing multiple encode/decodes. My box has two tuners so I can record 2
> things at once, or watch 1 thing and record another. With KDE I had
> video/audio sync problems when recording and watching live tv. I don't
> have those problems with blackbox.
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces at snowman.net
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at snowman.net] On Behalf Of Ryan A. Carris
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:44 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Screen turns off after 15 minutes
>
>
> Robert Kulagowski wrote:
> >
> > Did you read the HOWTO?
> > http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-17.html#ss17.7
> >
>
> Please note that some distros (mandrake) do funny things. I've followed
> the How-To instructions and they worked perfectly for KDE. But if I use
>
> the mandrake packages for blackbox or icewm, the screen still goes blank
>
> after 15 minutes.
>
> Off Topic, I'm not sure if it really helps using a lighter weight window
>
> manger package on Mandrake, becuase it seem liked Mandrake still loads a
>
> lot of the stuff for compatablity and the memory usuage wasn't much
> lower.
>
> -rac
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:55:29 -0500
> From: "JC" <johnmythtv at crombe.com>
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythShowtimes Module?
> Message-ID: <0b0501c2eb80$a689b8a0$0600a8c0 at C117787D>
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>
> Any chance you could get the code into MythTV? That's the central hub of
> the whole project and where it would get the most use.
>
> Thanks,
> JC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Davidoff" <dert at pobox.com>
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythShowtimes Module?
>
>
> > My ratings/stars/year patches are already in CVS. I'm working on the
> actors
> > element, but I'm still in the research phase. At the moment, I'm
planning
> on
> > creating a P2P network for metadata on video and audio media. The big
> issue
> > is where to (legally) get the data. Real Life has reared its ugly head,
> so I
> > am not sure when (if?) this code will get written...
> >
> > BTW, if you use MythWeb, you'll find a movies page which will
demonstrate
> the
> > patches -- I haven't bothered to put the new data into the MythTV
> interfaces.
> >
> >
> > #if JC /* Mar 14, 12:44 */
> > > It would be great to see the actors, number of stars (I think
somebody's
> > > got this in the works), year, ratings, and a paragraph on the show,
and
> > > all the other details. What a great way to decide which late-night
AMC
> > > classic to record / tune into!
> > #endif /* johnmythtv at crombe.com */
> > _______________________________________________
> > mythtv-users mailing list
> > mythtv-users at snowman.net
> > http://www.snowman.net/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 01:09:45 -0500
> From: Andy Davidoff <dert at pobox.com>
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythShowtimes Module?
> Message-ID: <20030316060945.GB3853 at zebar.net>
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> Message: 5
>
> Assuming you're talking about the UI issue... No, not in the next week.
All
> the data is already being stuffed into the database by mythfilldatabase,
so
> it's just a question of printing it out in the UI.
>
> I'm traveling at the moment, so if someone else is available to do this
prior
> to the 0.8 release, it sounds like it'd be appreciated. :-)
>
> As far as future code goes, almost any data available to MythWeb is
available
> to MythTV, so it's not a question of developing for one or the other.
>
>
> #if JC /* Mar 16, 00:55 */
> > Any chance you could get the code into MythTV? That's the central
> > hub of the whole project and where it would get the most use.
> #endif /* johnmythtv at crombe.com */
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 01:12:13 -0600
> From: "Rob Snow" <lists at dympna.com>
> To: mythtv-users at snowman.net
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Mythzilla
> Message-ID: <20030316070307.M33204 at dympna.com>
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> Message: 6
>
> After our conversation the other day on this list and perking some type of
> sick interest I've started working on Mythzilla... I've got the
graciously
> pointed to KDE tutorial code that uses a simple KHTML browser as it's main
> code.
>
> I've looked at mythvideo/music/gallery and I -think- I'll be able to
figure
> out the right thing to do...might need some help, as I'm a total noob to
> QT/KDE programming as well as c++. I'm an old time C programmer, which
> might actually hinder me :)
>
> The one downside I see so far is that it appears that KHTML is only a KDE
> object, which would add a dependency that many might not want allocate the
> disk space to...but unless there is a equivilent in QT it's gonna have to
> stay a dependency, I ain't writing a HTML render.
>
> Anyways, with a bit of work I hope to have a 'Hello World' as a proof of
> concept by Tuesday or so....don't expect much more than showing
> www.mythtv.org in a Myth context using KHTML.
>
> -Rob
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:58:18 +0200
> From: "Alex Wilbur" <alex at neuon.com>
> To: "'Discussion about mythtv'" <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Mythzilla
> Message-ID: <000c01c2eb9a$39cfdd10$99e364c2 at AWHOMEPC>
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>
> Rob, there's QTextBrowser which is what I was considering using when I
> got around to looking at MythMail...
>
> (see bottom of this page for a screen shot:
>
> http://doc.trolltech.com/3.1/pictures.html
>
> )
>
> Docs are here:
>
> http://doc.trolltech.com/3.1/qtextbrowser.html
>
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces at snowman.net
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at snowman.net] On Behalf Of Rob Snow
> Sent: 16 March 2003 09:12
> To: mythtv-users at snowman.net
> Subject: [mailinglists_mythtv] [mythtv-users] Mythzilla
>
>
> After our conversation the other day on this list and perking some type
> of
> sick interest I've started working on Mythzilla... I've got the
> graciously
> pointed to KDE tutorial code that uses a simple KHTML browser as it's
> main
> code.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:14:19 -0600
> From: "Rob Snow" <lists at dympna.com>
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Mythzilla
> Message-ID: <20030316091331.M87111 at dympna.com>
> In-Reply-To: <000c01c2eb9a$39cfdd10$99e364c2 at AWHOMEPC>
> References: <20030316070307.M33204 at dympna.com>
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>
> OHHH, that looks like it might be just the ticket! Thanks for the tip,
now
> off into more unexplored country.
>
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:58:18 +0200, Alex Wilbur wrote
> > Rob, there's QTextBrowser which is what I was considering using when
> > I got around to looking at MythMail...
> >
> > (see bottom of this page for a screen shot:
> >
> > http://doc.trolltech.com/3.1/pictures.html
> >
> > )
> >
> > Docs are here:
> >
> > http://doc.trolltech.com/3.1/qtextbrowser.html
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mythtv-users-bounces at snowman.net
> > [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at snowman.net] On Behalf Of Rob Snow
> > Sent: 16 March 2003 09:12
> > To: mythtv-users at snowman.net
> > Subject: [mailinglists_mythtv] [mythtv-users] Mythzilla
> >
> > After our conversation the other day on this list and perking some type
> > of
> > sick interest I've started working on Mythzilla... I've got the
> > graciously
> > pointed to KDE tutorial code that uses a simple KHTML browser as it's
> > main
> > code.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > mythtv-users at snowman.net
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:37:59 +0200
> From: "Alex Wilbur" <alex at neuon.com>
> To: "'Discussion about mythtv'" <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Mythzilla
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>
> > OHHH, that looks like it might be just the ticket! Thanks for the
> tip, now
> > off into more unexplored country.
>
> I don't know if it handles thet network transport though... So that
> might be a problem. Also, its probably very basic... But anyway, maybe
> it would do for some simple sites/pages.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:19:09 -0000
> From: "Malcolm Wotton" <malcolmwotton at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Really Dumb question
> Message-ID: <001b01c2eba5$7b7ac5d0$0b82280a at MALCOLMBUS>
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>
> I've got my system back on its feet again and now TV works (Thanks Ray).
> I've done all the building and configuration (I think) but I must have
> missed something pretty big as I don't appear to have mythbackend at all.
>
> I have mythfrontend, and from there I can see the program guide etc, so
the
> system is operating at a basic level, but if I can't get a copy of
> mythbackend then it's never going to fly.
>
> Where should I start looking to trace this problem? Is mythbackend a real
> executable? or a script that starts another executable with special
> configuaration parameters? Where should it get built?
>
> Thanks in advance for all help :)
>
> Malcolm
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 02:37:54 -0800
> From: Bruce Markey <bjm at lvcm.com>
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Really Dumb question
> Message-ID: <3E745402.8030303 at lvcm.com>
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>
> Malcolm Wotton wrote:
> ...
> > Where should I start looking to trace this problem? Is mythbackend a
real
> > executable? or a script that starts another executable with special
> > configuaration parameters? Where should it get built?
>
> Mythbackend is in the CVS version (soon to be 0.8). If
> you are using 0.7, you only need to run "mythfrontend".
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> -- bjm
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: 16 Mar 2003 15:50:08 +0100
> From: Martin Moeller <martin at martinm-76.dk>
> To: dert at pobox.com, Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at snowman.net>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythShowtimes Module?
> Message-ID: <1047826208.17256.13.camel at athlonpc.homelan.dk>
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>
> How does this rating work? Is it specific to tv_grab_na? I haven't seen
> any ratings using tv_grab_sn at least... Is it using some information
> that the xml file provides or getting it somewhere else?
> Naturally, things are somewhat complicated by the fact that many movies
> on many channels have their titles translated the the national language
> of the country the channel is sending from...
>
> lør, 2003-03-15 kl. 20:36 skrev Andy Davidoff:
> > My ratings/stars/year patches are already in CVS. I'm working on the
actors
> > element, but I'm still in the research phase. At the moment, I'm
planning on
> > creating a P2P network for metadata on video and audio media. The big
issue
> > is where to (legally) get the data. Real Life has reared its ugly head,
so I
> > am not sure when (if?) this code will get written...
> >
> > BTW, if you use MythWeb, you'll find a movies page which will
demonstrate the
> > patches -- I haven't bothered to put the new data into the MythTV
interfaces.
> >
> >
> > #if JC /* Mar 14, 12:44 */
> > > It would be great to see the actors, number of stars (I think
somebody's
> > > got this in the works), year, ratings, and a paragraph on the show,
and
> > > all the other details. What a great way to decide which late-night
AMC
> > > classic to record / tune into!
> > #endif /* johnmythtv at crombe.com */
> > _______________________________________________
> > mythtv-users mailing list
> > mythtv-users at snowman.net
> > http://www.snowman.net/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
> --
> Martin Moeller <martin at martinm-76.dk>
>
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