[mythtv-users] Stability problems when watching live tv

[Patrick Benton]

>
> Again, I'm not the RPM maintainer but I'll put in my .02.  No the RPM
> does not know that libexpat is broken.  If there exists a newer RPM of
> libexpat, it could know to use the newer, fixed, version though.
>
fair enough. Is there a newer fixed version available?


> I appreciate the documents and I indeed found them to be helpful.
> However, I also found the RPMs to be helpful. <snip>

I don't have a real problem with rpms in general, particularly if the 
documentation is thoroughly read. The problem I have is that these rpms 
are made by someone not well known to the project, which means that 
though they are probably fine, there may be catch-22 and "issues" with 
them that the mythtv regulars are not prepared to address. Second, I 
feel that people turn to rpms because they are "easier" than the 
regular install protocol. The problem with this is that even to use the 
rpms you would have to do a very thorough read of the documentation in 
order to avoid some of the pitfalls I mentioned before, and once you 
have done that (and addressed those problems) you have lost any "ease" 
advantage. On top of that, I think that the crowd looking for  the 
"easy" rpm solution is more likely to  skip crucial parts of the 
install directions, end up with a broken program, and come looking for 
help on the list. In the end I think the regular install, for now, _is_ 
the easier way to install.




> section of the documentation and give the users another install option,
> I'd be willing to write it.
>

I personally would be willing to take you up on this offer provided 
that:
a) the rpms can be verified as being high quality and robust
b) someone is (somewhat) committed to making high quality rpms for 
future releases of myth
c)the documentation you write is as comprehensive as what is already 
there
d)you intend to update the rpm parts of the documentation as needed and 
with future mythtv releases
e)Isaac and Robert Kulagowski approve



> Take care!  I really didn't mean to cause such a controversy.
>

no problem. I shouldn't have come off as so bitchy. It is interesting 
anyway. If an apt for rpm mythtv install can be made that takes care of 
all dependencies  and takes care of all the little issues (like broken 
libexpat, lang=c etc etc) then I would be thrilled, and would use it 
myself. But not yet. Until then it just creates headaches for folks 
trying to help other people get the awesome (but complicated) myth 
system going.


best,

cedar