[mythtv-users] RE: mythtv-users Digest, Vol 11, Issue 88

[Robert E.]

2. MythTV vs. SageTV vs. Etc.... (Sean)

Hello Myth Group and Sean,

	I fully agree with you that MythTV can be overwhelming for a
windows user to learn.  I'm a Windows guy and Linux has been a challenge
to learn.  I find the time need to learn MythTV with Linux is to much
for me at this time.  So I still keep my eye on MythTV as it is a very
nice program and has a good group following it.  But I have since turned
to myhtpc.net, a windows based PVR project that is also free.  Its has
so far been easier to learn for someone who has only a Windows
background.  I can't say its better or even comparable to MythTV, but I
can say it has similar features to MythTV and its free.
 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Speed and Hardware MPEG card choice (Robert Kulagowski)
   2. MythTV vs. SageTV vs. Etc.... (Sean)
   3. Re: MySQL timeout FAIL with fedora (Mr. Myth)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:47:48 -0600
From: Robert Kulagowski <bob at smalltime.com>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Speed and Hardware MPEG card choice
To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
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> 	Hello all.  I'm currently arguing with a dual OC'd Celeron
300->450
> moldy old machine for my mythtv box.

I've done this (same situation, dual 300->450 on a BX motherboard with 
MPEG-2 encoder cards).  But, since it's a 300MHz processor, most likely 
you don't have SSE and so you're not going to be able to deinterlace 
when running mythfrontend.  Works fine as a backend though.





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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:50:40 -0600
From: Sean <shomann2 at insightbb.com>
Subject: [mythtv-users] MythTV vs. SageTV vs. Etc....
To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
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Now, before we get started, let me say that I am a true believer in
MythTV
and its bright future. I also now understand fully what a convergence
appliance can mean and expect this industry to grow quickly in the
coming
years. 
I really want this to be a fair discussion about where MythTV stands in
the
PVR market. What has spurned this debate in my own mind is the
discovery/re-discovery of a program called SageTV:

http://www.freytechnologies.com/

Now, from a first glance, SageTV looks like the closest real competition
to
MythTV¹s PVR functionality. It can timeshift television, schedule
programming from a non-subscription based service through available
internet
connection, and most surprisingly to me, handle multiple tuner cards. It
can
also act as a server/client to stream programming thoughout a LAN. Like
MythTV, it seems to have a very active development cycle and user/fan
base.

It does not, however, support some of Myth¹s peripheral features. I can
find
no mention of transcoding, DVD ripping or modules like weather, news, or
game emulation. It does look like the conflict resolution is quite good
and
they claim the box can actually predict programming that you might want
to
watch based on viewing habits, like TIVO.

The most interesting thing to a nOOb like myself is that is runs on
Win2k/XP. For me, and likely many others, this is attractive in that we
don¹t have to learn a new OS. Personally, I enjoyed the thrill of
setting up
my MythBox in that I learn something new everytime. I feel more
comfortable
with Linux in general now, but still realize that I am missing some
basic
level knowledge that would make me less dependent on the various guides
and
community support. In other words, whenever something ³breaks² I feel a
little helpless and frustrated. It is only a guess, but I feel much more
confident fixing something in Windows and would therefore feel less
likely
to bash my little computer into junk less quickly should, say, my system
crashed in the middle of a high-load operation (transcoding, 3 weeks
ago).

So, how do we feel about how Myth stands up against the competition?
Linux
is undeniably more stable in general, but support for the hardware is
behind
that of the Wintel world. Truth be told, my general wish for my PVR as
it
stands is an easy way to archive my shows to DVD-Video. Right now, it
isn¹t
easy for me and if Sage or anyone else can give me the PVR functionality
of
Myth, with an easy archival tool (and yes, I know several on the list
have
talked about development of such a system) I will take a hard look at
it.

-Sean
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:55:52 -0700
From: "Mr. Myth" <mythtv at blandford.net>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MySQL timeout FAIL with fedora
To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
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Joel Anderson wrote:

>Yes, I have this error when starting mysqld on FC1 also.  It seems to
>actually start and work just fine, so I assumed it's something minor in
the
>init script and haven't bothered to look into yet.
>  
>
In the mysql startup script, after it starts the database, it does a 
mysqladmin ping to see if the database is up.  This fails if you have a 
root password since it requires a password.

I change mine to do a 'mysqladmin ping -u mysql' and now it works fie.

Michael




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