[mythtv-users] pcHDTV and HDTV

Steele Price steele at xtcp.net
Tue Aug 26 15:24:20 EDT 2003


set proper modelines and possibly adjust your TV in Service mode to
reduce/increase overscan and there are no black borders, the biggest problem
I have is in 720p, My Sony had WAY too much overscan (like 30 pixels per
side) and I still need to adjust that out in service mode, but in the short
term, I just made settings to Xine and MythTV to use a borderless window
mode instead of fullscreen.  I don't notice any real difference except the
size is now perfect with 2 pixels of overscan.

You can spend a week trying to find information on AVForum, I think I spent
even more, and it's 99% windows based using powerstrip.  I have all the
modelines needed for any standard broadcast resolution and will have them up
on my website in a day or 2.  These were the most difficult thing to find,
modelines that actually worked and didn't destroy the tube by setting a vga
refresh rate.

I tested alot of different resolutions, 1080i, 720p, 480p, etc.  and decided
that 720p was by far the best looking and most consistent. there is great
debate over 1080i vs. 720p, but if you want to see any text from your
computer, you won't be wanting interlaced anything.

Steele Price
CTO
Digital Dreamshop
http://xtcp.net


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[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org]On Behalf Of Jason Schloer
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:59 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV and HDTV



I've done some of the research, but no real world testing. AVForum is a
good place to try to find people who've done it. In fact there's diy
instructions for making a component converter there(though I haven't
been brave enough to try it yet) If you're building a box around it and
want widescreen, my suggestion would be for an NVIDIA MX series card,
since they support widescreen resolutions and have acceleration for MPEG
files(which is currently being worked into Myth). Once XVMC is fully
enabled in Myth a rather slow 1.2 Ghz machine should be able to do 1080i
no problem. I'd love tohear other people's take on this though.
Especially anyone running a VGA to component converter into a widescreen
HDTV. I'd love to know what's needed to ensure there are no black
borders. Anyway, keep us all informed on what you find out and I'll do
the same when I finally break down and buy a converter myself.

Jason Schloer


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[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Brian Foddy
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:29 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV and HDTV

This is encouraging.  I've been waiting for a card like this for many
months now.  Now that is available and a known commodity, I can start
planning a machine around it.

One question I haven't done much research on, not directly related to
the card but never the less very important...
What output options are there to drive from a graphics card to a HDTV
using component cables?  My HDTV doesn't have DVI inputs, so I need
either a card or converter with component outputs.  If its a native
video card, then I assume it has to be running in the native
1920x1080 interlaced mode?  Etc, etc, etc.  Again, it may not
be a big issue, I've just haven't done the research yet.

Thanks,
Brian

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Brandon Beattie wrote:

> I have a card, but I'm also the one who wrote the basic support so I'm
> biast. ;-)  You can watch HDTV, change channels, seek backwards
(Forward
> may have a bug that I'm checking into).  The main problem we're facing
> is you have to use an NTSC TV program guide for HDTV, and shows do not
> always match from NTSC to ATSC/HDTV.  Once a grabtv for hdtv is
written
> to parse html on titantv.com and fill a myth database with information
I
> consider that most of the final goal.  Fixing bugs and handling
no/poor
> ATSC signals is another feature.  But it does work.
>
> For hardware, I don't like hardware decoding as you can't do video
> overlay for OSD.  You will need about a 2.4Ghz+ system to be safe
> (Although 1.8Ghz is enough to just play a HD stream).  If you use
> hardware decoding a 1.2-1.4 ghz should be fine.  The performance needs
> to be improved in MythTV.  Another issue at times (How myth does it's
> scaling I believe).
>
> --Brandon
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:18:02PM -0700, Brandon Bremen wrote:
> > The new pcHDTV came out just the other day as you guys probably saw.
I
> > read where mythTV got some preliminary support for it, and I am
> > wondering how that is coming. Also, what hardware is need to output
at
> > HDTV resolutions? I've been lurking for a few days and noticed that
> > Jarod has an HDTV. How is the performance? And has anyone had a
chance
> > to actually try the pcHDTV card?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brandon
> >
>
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