[mythtv-users] MythTV.org is in SPAM black list!

[Ray Olszewski]

At 09:30 AM 8/17/2003 +0200, Chen Bekor wrote:
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>My ISP's policy is that the blocked ISP should resolve this case by 
>contacting SPEWS and figure out who is using their address block for SPAM. 
>Until that happens- their hands are tied :(

Tied by whom? Themselves, I surmise.

Really, you have to treat this "hands are tied" baloney not as an 
insurmountable restriction, but as an excuse offered by whoever you are 
speaking with at your ISP. You want Isaac to"try to resolve this issue". I 
expect he has better things to do ... from *his* standpoint, there is no 
issue ... just an idiotic wannabe anti-SPAM service that is overreaching a 
non-existant mandate.

You, not Isaac, need to "try to resolve this issue" by standing up to your 
ISP. Accommodating groups like SPEWS is bad for communication on the 
Internet, especially now when there are many more responsible alternatives 
for combatting SPAM.

SPEWS urges people in Isaac's position to "vote with their feet" by 
changing ISPs to one that SPEWS doesn't block. I suggest instead that folks 
like you need to "vote with their feet" against SPEWS and the ISPs that use 
it. If you don't want to do that, it certainly is understandable making 
these changes is a lot of work and inconvenience... and your solution is 
the one you have found, relying on the list archive.

>Is there any way to override specific IP addresses? maybe this way I can 
>convince my ISP to cancel the SPEWS filter for mythtv.org?

There is always a "way to override specific IP addresses". Exactly what it 
is in this case depends on the technical details of how SPEWS and your ISP 
implement its filitering ... technical questions a bit outside the scope of 
this mailing list. This question is better put to your ISP than to this list.

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