[mythtv-users] MythTV.org is in SPAM black list!

[Ray Olszewski]

(Initially sent this reply to myth-dev by mistake. Sorry, Isaac; please 
feel free to kill that posting.)

At 11:20 AM 8/14/2003 +0200, Chen Bekor wrote:
>The mythtv.org mailing list servers (66.111.39.130 and 66.111.39.136) are 
>included in a global SPAM Prevention early warnning systems (go to 
>www.spews.org - on the home page enter this IPs in the lookup record form 
>and you will find them in the black list!)
>
>As a result all major ISPs block any email comming from mythtv.org.

Is this ("all major") true? Or is SPEWS just another wannabe SPAM blocker 
that will fail by overreaching, much the way ORBS self-destructed some 
years back?

Who really uses SPEWS? As distinct from a more level-headed source like 
RTBH, which (last time I checked, anyway) didn't block entire ISP address 
blocks?

>I have contacted my ISP 2 weeks ago but its not in their hands

Sure it is. Your ISP *chose* to use SPEWS. If in doing so it blocks 
legitimate e-mail traffic, you as a customer should object. If enough 
customers do, your ISP will change its practice.

>  - Isaac, can you help?
>
>Any body else out there with the same problem?

How would an e-mail sent through this list reach such people? (For that 
matter, how are you receiving it?)