[mythtv-users] MythTV.org is in SPAM black list!

[Mike Wohlgemuth]

Chen Bekor wrote:

> The mythtv.org mailing list servers (66.111.39.130 and 66.111.39.136) 
> are included in a global SPAM Prevention early warnning systems (go to 
> www.spews.org - on the home page enter this IPs in the lookup record 
> form and you will find them in the black list!)
>
> As a result all major ISPs block any email comming from mythtv.org.
>
> I have contacted my ISP 2 weeks ago but its not in their hands - 
> Isaac, can you help?
>
> Any body else out there with the same problem?

I don't think that Isaac will be able to do much.  mythtv.org's IP 
addresses are assigned to Sago Networks, and SPEWS blackholes entire 
network blocks when they decide an ISP is "spammer friendly".  From 
their FAQ:

Q5: Why are network addresses listed if no spam has originated from them?
A5: They are listed because they have been set up by known spammers and 
spam support operations, most with a demonstrable repeated history of 
spamming or spamming services. They are also listed if they host 
websites advertised in spam, as this too falls under spamming services - 
these listings normally occur if the owners of that network address 
range do not remove the offenders.

Q6: How did "I" get into SPEWS?!
A6: Normally it is not "you" who was listed but your ISP or host. They 
may have been listed due to spam originating from their section of the 
Internet or due to their hosting or providing services for known 
spammers. The SPEWS bounce page covers this in more detail. Now if you 
are a spammer, or spammer supporter, yourself, you were listed for that 
reason.

Past experience shows that no amount of pleading on mythtv.org's behalf 
will change SPEWS mind.  Either mythtv.org will need to move to a new 
ISP that SPEWS likes, or users will need to get mail via a provider that 
doesn't use SPEWS.

Mike