[mythtv] Additional run-time dependencies

[faginbagin]

On 8/20/2017 3:33 PM, Bill Meek wrote:
> On 08/20/2017 01:21 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 9:10 PM faginbagin <mythtv at hbuus.com 
>> <mailto:mythtv at hbuus.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 8/19/2017 7:58 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote:
>>      > On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 1:16 PM <f-myth-users at media.mit.edu 
>> <mailto:f-myth-users at media.mit.edu>
>>      > <mailto:f-myth-users at media.mit.edu 
>> <mailto:f-myth-users at media.mit.edu>>> wrote:
>>      >
>>      >          > Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:02:35 +0000
>>      >          > From: Thomas Mashos <thomas at mashos.com 
>> <mailto:thomas at mashos.com>
>>      >     <mailto:thomas at mashos.com <mailto:thomas at mashos.com>>>
>>      >
>>      >          > I've just added these to the dependencies for 
>> mythtv-common.
>>      >     In doing so,
>>      >          > trusty builds needed to be stopped as the packages 
>> don't
>>      >     exist at all on
>>      >          > trusty.
>>      >
>>      >     Is it intentional that Myth is only buildable on the 
>> -latest- LTS,
>>      >     and not all LTS's which are still supported?  I don't know 
>> of Myth
>>      >     has an explicit policy one way or the other, but the whole 
>> point of
>>      >     an LTS is not to have to reinstall with great frequency.
>>      >
>>      >     Would it instead be possible to build (and get errors) but 
>> declare ttvdb
>>      >     grabbing not possible on that OS unless extra repos are 
>> enabled?  Such
>>      >     grabbing seems an almost trivial reason to suddenly drop 
>> support for an
>>      >     LTS that's still got almost two years to go.
>>      >
>>      >     P.S.  I also noticed the bug report saying lack of package 
>> availability
>>      >     also breaks raspbian jessie.  Taken together, this seems to 
>> be affecting
>>      >     a lot of releases for a very small amount of 
>> functionality.  How much of
>>      >     what's in those packages could perhaps be moved directly 
>> into the
>>      >     new code
>>      >     for releases which lack the packages?
>>      >     _______________________________________________
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > The Mythbuntu team has always supported Latest LTS only and 
>> recommended
>>      > upgrading every 2 years (although attempts are made to build 
>> packages
>>      > for older LTS releases, if stuff causes them to break there no 
>> attempt
>>      > to fix them).
>>      >
>>      > If I remove the blacklisting of Trusty, then the package will 
>> build but
>>      > will fail to install due to missing dependencies. I might be 
>> able to
>>      > backport those packages to the PPA if it's not too much effort.
>>      > --
>>      > -Thomas
>>
>>     I, for one, would certainly appreciate it if you could try to 
>> backport
>>     those packages. I'm still on mythtv 0.27 and trusty and don't plan on
>>     upgrading until trusty LTS ends. I experimented with mythtv 0.28 and
>>     xenial and found it degraded playback of h264 SD content on one of my
>>     older laptops I use as a frontend. As long as that laptop works 
>> and as
>>     long as Canonical supports trusty, I don't want to upgrade. FMI, see
>>     this thread I started in June:
>>     https://lists.gt.net/mythtv/users/608926
>>     _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> I'll look into it, however we don't build 0.27 packages anymore since 
>> the release of 29. We only build Current Release, Current Release - 1, 
>> and master.
>> -- 
>> -Thomas
> 
> Also:
> 
> Although not huge, the differences in bindings/python/MythTV/... and
> mythtv/programs/scripts/metadata/Television/ttvdb.py itself, prevent
> the existing patch from applying to 0.27.

So it might be possible to modify the patch further so it could work in 
0.27? Hmm, I'm not a python expert, but I have tinkered in the language. 
Guess if I want to stick with 0.27, it's time for me to take a look at 
Mark's work and see if I can take it a "step backwards".

FWIW, I took a look at smolt.mythtv.org and it seems there's about 29% 
active 0.27 installs. Also, isn't it time to announce this change on the 
user list and the forum so those folks know they now have a good reason 
to think about upgrading and should start planning for it?

Regards,
Helen