[mythtv] Fwd: MYTHTV -> GPL Violation (someone violating Mythtv GPL License)

Paul Harrison mythtv at sky.com
Wed Jun 11 10:01:16 UTC 2014

On 11/06/14 10:40, Warpme wrote:
> On 09/06/14 22:52, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Chris Petersen wrote:
>>>>>> Anyone interested in looking into this [alledged GPL violation?
>> On Friday 06 Jun 2014 14:25:31 Thomas Mashos wrote:
>>>>> /me grabs his pitchfork
>> On 7 June 2014 07:39, Stuart Morgan <stuart at tase.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Please don't. Chris sent this to the wrong list, it was meant for the
>>>> private developer only list.  .... I'm sure it's just a mis-
>>>> understanding.
>> Jean-Yves Avenard replied later that day:
>>> there's never any excuses for GPL violations, unless you have are
>>> copyright holder and can change the license of your own work.
>> In my experience in doing GPL enforcement work on a regular basis for 20
>> years, most GPL violations are in fact misunderstandings, as Stuart
>> points out, and are best resolved privately.  I've written a number of
>> blog posts on this subject.  This one from November 2009 might be the
>> most relevant to the situation at hand:
>> http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2009/11/08/gpl-enforcement.html
>> The advice from Stuart above are, in fact, two of my main bullet points
>> therein. :)
>>   Sincerely,
> Bradley, Stuart,
> I really appreciate Your attitude to current situation.
> I'm really glad that we have here persons which want to first discover 
> situation, understand my motivations for temporarily not providing 
> minimyth2 sources - and only after this finally make judgments & 
> eventually taking enforcement.
> Let me explain shortly my position on problem.
> Source code is visit card of author. While I'm not software developer 
> by profession - I still want to maintain reputation of somebody who 
> tries do things correctly, elegant and with high quality.
> Publishing my work also means taking responsibility for maintaining it.
> Even if code will be published as unsupported - replaying remainders 
> about this, answering questions, etc creates extra burden for me and 
> my current situation+priorities and nor ready for this.
> Current minimyth2 sources:
> -due issues with some upstreams cross-compile errors -  are not 
> compiling without manual interventions (and some of them are danger 
> for host os)
> -in many places code is not rewritten from POC code to production code
> -documentation isn't finished and not fully synced with current code.
> Above arguments directed me to decision about delay with publishing 
> sources.
> Nevertheless, I want to underline: I'm fully aware about potential GPL 
> violation and I HAVE plans to publish sources.
> In above context we can consider publishing of minimyth2 binaries as 
> premature move.
> I do this as I want to gather feedback about errors, see demand, 
> collect new features requests.
> If community believes it is unacceptable to provide binaries and not 
> providing sources during next month or two - then I will fully 
> understand this and I'm ready to withdrawal binaries from minimyth2 site.
> Pls let me know what You think
> br
> BTW: One again thx for way how you are approaching this!

I don't understand how any of this stops you making the source code 
available even if you put a big disclaimer saying if you try to compile 
this it may burn your house down :)

It may be to your advantage as I understand this all started because 
someone wanted to help you fix a bug in minimyth2 but couldn't because 
the source code wasn't available.

Paul H.

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