[mythtv] [mythtv-commits] Ticket #12321: mythfilldatabase adds channels when only-update-guide requested

[Peter Bennett (cats22)]

On 12/01/2014 11:18 AM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 11/25/2014 01:52 PM, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:40 PM, wrote:
>>> #12321: mythfilldatabase adds channels when only-update-guide requested
>> ....
>>> Comment (by Peter Bennett):
>>>
>>>   The problem with this is ....
>> Your originally claimed problem is that Live TV does
>> not respect the visible flag.  If that is the true issue
>> than I would think that trying to make mythfilldatabase
>> work around that issue is the wrong approach.
>
> Well, the visible flag was designed to allow users to hide channels
> from the guide for purposes of EPG display and scheduling while still
> allowing them to have the channels defined in their database.  Since
> there's absolutely no good reason to have a channel defined in the
> database unless it gets used for something, the only thing the channel
> could then be used for is Live TV, which is why Live TV allows the
> tuning of not-visible channels.  (In other words, you can hide the
> CineMAX or other premium channel so your kids don't stumble across it
> or see inappropriate descriptions in the guide (especially for its
> after-hours fare), but you could still watch the occasional movie
> using Live TV.)
>
> For years, people have abused the visible flag as a way of allowing
> them to keep channels in their database "just in case" (not because
> they actually want or use them) or to save them from having to
> re-delete a channel they don't want after a rescan (though, IIRC,
> rescans have in the past--possibly no longer--reset the visible flag,
> so they still have to mark it not visible again).
>
> The plan is to eventually modify MythTV so that we don't have a
> visible flag, but some sort of channel state flag that allows the user
> to define a purpose of a channel--enabled for everything, enabled for
> recordings, enabled for Live TV, enabled for radio, disabled, ... or
> whatever.  Until then, its use for anything other than its designed
> purpose is bound to have issues--though those issues wouldn't
> necessarily be bugs.
>
> Mike

My original problem is solved by the use of --remove-new-channels in
mythfilldatabase, so it is a non-issue. Thanks for the clarification.

Peter