[mythtv] [mythtv-commits] Ticket #8564: Inserting a new cut point alters existing cut points

[Michael T. Dean]

On 06/21/2010 06:36 PM, Chris Petersen wrote:
> On 06/21/2010 10:45 AM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>> When in un-cut video:
>> - Move the previous end point here (or, if there is no previous end
>> point, Cut from the beginning)
>> or
>> - Move the next start point here (or, if there is no next start point,
>> Cut to the end)
>>
>> Or, when in cut regions:
>> - Move the next end point here (if we're already inside a cut region)
>> or
>> - Move the previous start point here (if we're already inside a cut 
>> region)
>
> I use the cutlist editor primarily for:
>
> 1.
>  * Adjust point that the flag missed (off by 0-10 seconds)
>  * Add start/end cut area missed by flagger
> 2.
>  * Add new commercial missed by flagger
>  * Add tiny 20-second uncut in the middle of a long commercial
>    (top chef does this a lot, if anyone wants an example)
>
> I've found that I do just enough from group two to make Mark's changes 
> a bit annoying.  However, we could probably just adjust some 
> thresholds to make it more practical, in addition to the "new region" 
> idea that could make group 2 use cases even smoother.
>
> I'd recommend a slight change to your "new region" logic.  When adding 
> a new region inside of a cut area of say <= 5min, uncut 20-30 seconds.

I like that idea--I hadn't even thought of "uncutting" some cut area.

> In addition, make the default menu option "new region" instead of 
> "move point" if the cursor is more than 5 minutes away from an 
> existing cutpoint.

Also good--although it will be interesting to see how many people edit 
by rote actions (SELECT, DOWN, SELECT) versus by what they read (I'm 
edit by rote actions).  Perhaps we can make it easier for the rote users 
with better key bindings so they don't need to use the menu at 
all--which would factor into my key bindings improvements, anyway.

> We can/should keep single insertions for areas near the start/end of 
> the recording (and imho default to cutting that if within 5 minutes of 
> the start or end).  But we could name it "cut to beginning" and "cut 
> to end" to avoid the terminology of adding a single cut point.

For those, it would be the "Cut from the beginning" or "Cut to the end" 
mentioned above for when there is no previous/next cut point.  It's 
still a region--it just happens to be a region that ends on (or just 
next to?) the first or last frame of the recording.

Thanks for the input.

Mike