[mythtv] Re: Whats wrong with myth
jam at tigger.ws
jam at tigger.ws
Sun Mar 20 02:50:28 UTC 2005
Hi
First a sincere thanks for the many (gentle) answers.
> >>I'll second that. HDTV works well on my setup.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Sure, and I have HDTV working too. He was a bit overbearing saying
> >it doesn't work. But it is true that it took a lot of work to get
> >it going, and I know that's true for a lot of people, and I would
> >be curious to know if there was even a sizeable group who didn't encounter
> >some level of snags to fix in making and HDTV box. What fraction of
> >people just said "apt-get mythtv-suite" then did some basic config and
> >had an HD box ready to go?
> >
> >
> Well in my case I had zero issues, I built the driver, installed it as
> was ready to go (aside from my setting Myth to /dev/video0 instead of
> /dev/dtv0 at first). Then again, from day one I've done my homework and
> not tried to force Linux/Myth to adapt to my hardware and instead bought
> hardware I knew would less of a hassle. Every piece of hardware in my
> Myth machines was chosen after having researched things on the mailing
> lists.
>
>
> >It's often nothing to do with Myth, but instead the immaturity of the
> >various drivers for hardware -- video cards and xvideo, tuner cards,
> >sound drivers for multichannel sound.
> >
> >
> See above.
>
> >Of course, if you build myth only for yourself, the problems other people
> >have in getting it going are not relevant. If you want the system to
> >gain more users (and developers) for either philanthropic or selfish
> >reasons, then you have to listen to the people who announce they are
> >walking away in frustration. If they are reasonably skilled linux
> >users, and they walk away in frustration, it's not their fault, much
> >as any particular error made can be seen to be their fault.
> >
> User who choose to walk away because they couldn't make things work on
> their hardware either 1) need to wait for a commercial Myth solution or
> 2) need to do a little homework and select different hardware. I'm
> happy to help people, but most of the complaints I see from people who
> are TRULY frustrated and not just doing something wrong involve them
> having tried to force their hardware/distro of choice instead of
> following the path of least resistance. Most issues aren't Myth issues
> at all and it's not really the Myth developers place to debug every
> possible combination of hardware/distro.
Just to re-iterate:
I was involved with two mates.
We researched for weeks, before choosing the DVICO fusion card, because
it was the best fit I could find in Australia, and it had hardware
compression.
Myth was built from source.
SDTV is good, HDTV is blocky and pixelated,
"I'm with mom on this, its so jerky I get a headache watching it"
PIDs, sql, sound all handled without too much loss of sleep, and 0.17's
scan is much better (once you've handled the no feeds situation)
Machines were celeron-2.6 PATA, p4-3.2 PATA, p4-3 SATA.
on the c-2.6 and p4-3,2 machines (theirs) windows is very good.
on my machine p4-3 kaxtv in HD is good, kaxtv SD is excellant.
on a c-1.7 kaxtv HD is ok (occasional pixellated line).
All machines were using Pascoe's FUSION drivers.
Just for the archives, would those who said that they have no HDTV problems
please give a one line answer on their hardware.
Thanks
James
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