[mythtv] PVR 250 & Linux vs Windows PVRs

Boyd II, Willy wboyd at fulbright.com
Thu Nov 13 17:59:55 EST 2003


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ramon Roca [mailto:Ramon.Roca at xcombo.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:49 PM
>To: Development of mythtv
>Subject: Re: [mythtv] PVR 250 & Linux vs Windows PVRs
>
>
>Maybe a little bit off topic, however just claryfing Desmond mention.
>
>Digital satellite (DVB-s) is known with a separate box because 
>regular TV /VCR can't decode the signal feeded by the dish, 
>however the DVB-s cards have that tuner, and many of them 
>linux drivers and applications, therefore it's potentially 
>possible to enjoy that thing without having a separate box 
>controlled by either ir or serial device.

And just to extend on this (though I think it might have been mentioned
already), DVB-s is not used much (at all?) here in America.  Unfortunately
we Americans have to deal with proprietary digital satellite from Directv
and Dish Network, in which case an external box is the only solution.

- Willy

>
>
>On dj, 2003-11-13 at 06:01, hayward at slothmud.org wrote:
>> The PVR250 has TV-IN, but no TV-OUT.
>> Thats a feature only in the 350.
>> 
>> --Brian
>> 
>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, George & Kim Lopez wrote:
>> 
>> >Great info.  I really appreciate the editorial
>> >review w/regard to MythTV.  So the bozo question
>> >of the day, what do you mean by an external
>> >tuner?  Are you talking antenae vs cable TV vs
>> >Satellite dish or are you talking about the
>> >receiver for the tuner card?
>> >   Also, regarding the PVR 350 vs PVR 250, you
>> >mention issues with TV out on the 350.  Does
>> >anyone know if the same issues exist with the PVR
>> >250?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >GML
>> >---- Begin Original Message ----
>> >
>> >From: "Desmond Rivet" <desmond_rivet at hotmail.com>
>> >Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 01:56:57 +0000
>> >To: mythtv-dev at mythtv.org
>> >Subject: Re: [mythtv] PVR 250 & Linux vs Windows PVRs
>> >
>> >
>> >I currently use a PVR-350 in a 2.4GHz P4 box. For
>> >the most part things work
>> >great. And the scheduling is rather intelligent -
>> >MythTV it won't record a 
>> >program if you already have it, and it can
>> >sometimes even resolve schduling 
>> >conflicts on its own (i.e. if program A and
>> >program B are on at the same 
>> >time C, and you've set both to record, but
>> >program A is on later at time D, 
>> >MythTV will record program B at time C and
>> >program A at time D without 
>> >intervention).
>> >
>> >Things get complicated if you have an external
>> >tuner. I had to build my own
>> >transmitter - solder and all.  Wasn't very hard,
>> >but it's something to 
>> >consider. Instructions are on the LIRC site. Your
>> >external tuner (if you 
>> >have one) may be controllable via a serial cable.
>> >Mine was not.
>> >
>> >MPEG2's are a bit difficult to edit (it's not
>> >just a simple matter of
>> >cutting out the frames you don't want). As far as
>> >I'm aware, MythTV does not 
>> >let you edit MPEG2 files via the onscreen GUI. On
>> >the other hand, the files 
>> >are ready to be burned on a DVD.
>> >
>> >TV out is another issue - support for TV out on
>> >the PVR-350 is in the
>> >development stage. I've done brief experiments
>> >with the driver and the 
>> >quality is great. Almost indistiguishable from
>> >actual TV. You won't get that 
>> >if you simply use the TV out on your video card.
>> >
>> >Mythmusic is great, so is Mythvideo. This is one
>> >of the main reasons I use
>> >MythTV - the add-ons. When I first started this
>> >project, I was lookiing to 
>> >build a complete "media center". Something that
>> >would not only record TV and 
>> >archive the shows, but play music, DVDs, etc.
>> >MythTV is a great project in 
>> >this regard - and I don't think any other piece
>> >of free software, on any 
>> >platform, Windows included, comes close.
>> >
>> >>From: "George & Kim Lopez" <gklopez at metacrawler.com>
>> >>Reply-To: gklopez at metacrawler.com,      
>> > Development of mythtv
>> >><mythtv-dev at mythtv.org>
>> >>To: mythtv-dev at mythtv.org
>> >>Subject: [mythtv] PVR 250 & Linux vs Windows PVRs
>> >>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:45:24 -0800
>> >>
>> >>I have seen, with mixed results, Linux PVR
>> >>solutions using Hauppauge PVR 250 tuner cards on
>> >>different systems.  I am in the research phase
>> >>(reading the web, subscribing to mail-lists,
>> >>downloading How-to Manuals, etc) of converting
>> >>one of my computers (P4, 2.4 GHz), currently in
>> >>a closet, into a Linux PVR.  I am curious if
>> >>anyone has actually gotten the system up and
>> >>running to a satisfactory condition.  I am not
>> >>necessarily an audio-phile.  I just want to be
>> >>able to record and archive different TV shows or
>> >>music off of my Direct TV.
>> >>    I am about to buy my TV tuner card (the only
>> >>piece of equipment I think I am missing) and was considering the 
>> >>Hauppauge PVR 250 or 350 or the Pinnacle Pro.  From the Hauppauge 
>> >>and Pinnacle web-site, it looks like I could set up a Windows
>> >>PVR solution instead of Linux.  Any thoughts on
>> >>this?  Why would this NOT be a good solution
>> >>other than the fact that it would be M$.  Please
>> >>accept my apologies as I realize I have
>> >>bombarded you with a ton of questions.  I would
>> >>appreciate any info you could provide.  I will
>> >>do my best to document my results and post my
>> >>learnings or travails.  Admittedly, I am a bit
>> >>of a Linux newbie as I have not messed with it
>> >>since RH 6.2 came out.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Thanks,
>> >>George
>> >>
>> >>
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